No More Pirates

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by hazard, Mar 29, 2013.

  1. Mar 30, 2013 #21 of 113

    keenan Godfather

    Feb 8, 2005
    My response was to contest this comment made by Msguy, "They are denying him the opportunity to purchase MLB Extra Innings?, DIRECTV is not denying him the opportunity to purchase MLBEI, just that if he does he still won't be able to view Pirates games.

    I agree with everything else you've said here, the whole market area/blackout system needs a wholesale revamping, think of the poor folks who live in Las Vegas, they have about 6 teams that claim that area as "market territory".
  2. Mar 30, 2013 #22 of 113

    TheRatPatrol Hall Of Fame

    Oct 1, 2003
    Phoenix, AZ
    Are you saying these teams claim LV but there is no way to watch the games at all, not even on the RSN's with sports pack?
  3. Mar 30, 2013 #23 of 113

    keenan Godfather

    Feb 8, 2005
    I believe that is the case yes, but it's been awhile since it I read and not being affected by it I have not retained the details.

    From Wikipedia(not a perfect source, but I believe it's accurate),


    Link to source page.
  4. Mar 30, 2013 #24 of 113

    dxtrfn80 Mentor

    Apr 17, 2012
    Another thing that annoys me that is if you are a Yankees fan living in DC you can get their games with Extra Innings but you cannot listen to their announcers when they play the Baltimore Orioles or Washington Nationals, you have to watch it on MASN with their announcers. It is stupid. Even with Extra Innings, out of market replays are blacked out. You get one chance to record the game then the 3 replays or so before the next game are blacked out. With Extra Innings (NBA League Pass, etc.) you should be entitled to all content from all teams for that year including live games, replays, team programming and classic games.
  5. Mar 30, 2013 #25 of 113

    keenan Godfather

    Feb 8, 2005
    Yes, that's the trouble I have with Dodgers/Giants games, and what makes it worse is that the Dodgers' Prime broadcast is head and shoulders better in quality than the crap we get from the Comcast RSN here in the SF bay area. Not to mention, with the Prime broadcast I get to hear Vin Scully :)

    I will say that the Giants' broadcast team of Kuiper and Krukow are my favorites behind Scully, but the nasty looking video and ultra-compressed audio of CSNBA's games are just terrible.
  6. Mar 30, 2013 #26 of 113

    jmpfaff AllStar

    Dec 12, 2004
    @hazard -- I'd contact the Pirates Customer Relations office and complain to them. It's in the best interest of the Pirates that you are able to see their games -- and they could (can't guarantee they will) work with DirecTV to either add your Zip to one of the allowed options.
  7. Mar 30, 2013 #27 of 113

    dxtrfn80 Mentor

    Apr 17, 2012
    (Yankee fan watching YES Feed of Yankees-Orioles on mobile device in Philadelphia ready to cross into Delaware)
    Michael Kay-Here is a drive out to center, see (crosses into Delaware, feed goes out)
    Fan-This feed is blacked out tune to MASN. OH CRAP! I thought Delaware was Phillies territory.
    Fan 2-It is but it is also MASN territory which 70 percent can't see on cable in their region from Wilmington to Charlotte.
    Fan-Turn the car around back to Philly so I can watch the YES Feed.
  8. Mar 30, 2013 #28 of 113

    JosephB Icon

    Nov 14, 2005
    Birmingham, AL
    Is that seriously how the mobile app works? What a bunch of idiots. Someone should print this thread out and staple it to the forehead of every team owner in professional sports. The fact that the mobile app doesn't go off your billing/home address just shows they don't get it. It's like they sat down with the question "how can we most effectively frustrate our biggest fans?"
  9. Mar 30, 2013 #29 of 113

    lionsfan Mentor

    Jan 19, 2007
    Here in Vegas we do get rsn's from LA, Oak,sf. In our package. Not sure about San Diego as there rsn is new. Only on we do not get is Arizona, unless you get the sports pack.
  10. Mar 30, 2013 #30 of 113

    tonyd79 Hall Of Fame

    Jul 24, 2006
    Columbia, MD
    Actually, it is logical for a blackout system. It is intended for games that are not local to where you are, not where you live. Addresses are nonsense.

    But does it go black when you cross a line? I have never seen it check location except on start.
  11. Mar 31, 2013 #31 of 113

    milton Cool Member

    Mar 12, 2011
    It is in the interest of Major League Baseball to fix these problems. But for some reason, they seem hesitant to do so. Maybe there is resistance from some teams.

    This extreme and ridiculous example of MLB's blackout policy is one that can get legislators acting. They hold hearings on steroids and other baseball issues.

    An ideal MLB league-wide policy would basically be:

    You get local games from local RSNs either through your RSN (as part of overall TV package) and/or through that RSN's feed if you choose to pay for MLB EI/MLB.TV.

    This would seem to solve even the L.V. problem as you could at least pay for it.
  12. Mar 31, 2013 #32 of 113

    Laker44 Godfather

    Jun 18, 2008
    If I still had DirecTV, I would have to move one mile to receive Pirate games. Where I live at now (zip code 45714), STO, Fox Cincinnati and Ohio would be my RSN's. But if I would move that one mile into (zip code 26101), ROOT Sports Pittsburgh and the other 3 would be my RSN's. What is more asinine is of the 3 cities, Pittsburgh is closer then Cleveland and Cincinnati from where I live.
  13. Mar 31, 2013 #33 of 113

    bjlc Icon

    Aug 20, 2004
    I truly feel bad for the original poster.. I cannot comment, why I feel so bad or how we would have much in common, for the rest of the posters would lash out at me..
    but it is a true shame and a sham.. plus, as a small market team, such as the Pirates or say the Twins, you would think that they would want as many viewers and possible TICKET BUYERS as possible.. evendentually, they have not learned from, other sports.. where more exposure gives you MORE TICKET SALES.. not less.. why would you or YOUR KID want to go to see a team that you have no investment in?
  14. Mar 31, 2013 #34 of 113

    JoeTheDragon Hall Of Fame

    Jul 21, 2008
    what about local games?? at least 99% of the WGN 9 games are on WGN america. But the WGN sports games on WCIU are only shown on a few other OTA channels covering the teams area. The braves used to have that channel on directv that showed OTA games over the teams full area.

    But you idea may hit a brick wall with the old cable rules saying that you can get limited basic and add any add on channel pack AKA HBO.
    So I don't think RSN will like some getting limited basic and adding MLB EI and makeing a rule saying must get a basic pack that has local RSNs may not work in the courts.

    But I think the mlb and nhl blackout lawsuit will at least put some issues in the lights of the courts and any thing can happen. Even RSN's going HBO like where they are add on channels like some used to be (back in the PAY UHF days and some when they first showed up on cable)

    Going add on channel likely will lead to CSN NW, CSN Philly + TCN, CSN Houston and dodgers channel showing up on directv.
  15. Apr 1, 2013 #35 of 113

    Cyber36 Legend

    Mar 20, 2008
    Byron NY
    Just ANOTHER reason to give up pay tv altogether........
  16. Apr 1, 2013 #36 of 113

    blackhawkzone Godfather

    Nov 29, 2007
    a) watch streams
    b) use mlbtv and change your web address to overseas
    c) get a canuck dish
    d) join a sports torrent site.

    and the pirates are on wgn the next 3 days until you decide what to do.
  17. Apr 1, 2013 #37 of 113

    bigwilly087 AllStar

    Mar 28, 2007
    Easiest thing to do would be to change your directv service address somewhere closer to Pittsburgh.
  18. Apr 1, 2013 #38 of 113

    CCarncross Hall Of Fame

    Jul 19, 2005
    And totally against the terms of service. Dont recommend something that could land the subscriber in trouble if caught.
  19. Apr 2, 2013 #39 of 113

    bigwilly087 AllStar

    Mar 28, 2007
    There is no way for this subscriber to get the Pirates without violating some terms of service, I was just offering an additional, easier, alternatvie to the ones posed by another poster. Not sure you could get in trouble for that anyways, its not like Directv cares, they just have to follow the rules based on the address you give them.
  20. Apr 2, 2013 #40 of 113

    sunfire9us Godfather

    Feb 15, 2009
    I have always believed DTV is not stupid. They carry on a don't ask don't tell policy under the table. They legally cannot allow things to happen concerning false addresses for purposes of either sports territorial restrictions or to evade local tv stations. They know many subscribers do this and look the other way as long as the accounts are current. As long as they legally don't know, they are not legally responsible and cannot be held liable. That is all DTV is concerned about. Once again: DTV is NOT stupid, they know this happens under "the table"

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