No More Pirates

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by hazard, Mar 29, 2013.

  1. Apr 6, 2013 #61 of 113

    studechip Godfather

    Apr 16, 2012
    Because MLB tells them to.
  2. Apr 6, 2013 #62 of 113

    CCarncross Hall Of Fame

    Jul 19, 2005
    Owning a channel and having transmission rights are 2 entirely different things...
  3. Apr 6, 2013 #63 of 113

    milton Cool Member

    Mar 12, 2011
    So is this how the basic story goes?

    Each team has a territory (and they can overlap). Games in that territory are unavailable on MLB.TV or MLB EI.

    RSN pays local team the right to air the team's games to households in that territory.

    MLB charges RSNs fees for airing MLB content based on # subscribers (including live games they've paid the local team the exclusive right to air).

    So the RSN will charge the provider a higher price for those areas providing the team's games, which encourages them to restrict the area to where fan interest per viewer is higher.
  4. Apr 6, 2013 #64 of 113

    DawgLink Woof Woof Woof

    Nov 5, 2006
    Washington, DC
    The story of blackouts in general are idiotic in so many ways...most of which involve consumers who want to watch a few games or no games being charged incredibly absurd amounts to fund the absurd deals with TV companies made with the leagues
  5. Apr 6, 2013 #65 of 113

    JoeTheDragon Hall Of Fame

    Jul 21, 2008
    The Team likely owns part of the network / want's so much per sub.
  6. Apr 6, 2013 #66 of 113

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member

    Sep 5, 2006
    Allen, TX
  7. Apr 6, 2013 #67 of 113

    JoeTheDragon Hall Of Fame

    Jul 21, 2008
  8. Apr 6, 2013 #68 of 113

    tonyd79 Hall Of Fame

    Jul 24, 2006
    Columbia, MD
    Team contracts don't work that way. They get flat money from the channel. Their interest would be to increase their coverage not for the sub money but for the branding. But MLB as a whole sets that, not individual teams.
  9. Apr 10, 2013 #69 of 113

    hazard Cool Member

    Aug 27, 2008
    I've sent notices to DirecTV, MLB and the Pirates themselves asking for an official response. We'll see what they say (if anything).
  10. Apr 11, 2013 #70 of 113

    wualumni New Member

    Apr 3, 2013
    After two weeks the Pirates have never responded, MLB says they can only talk to the blackout rules & sent me a link to the blackout rules, & DirecTV basically says tough luck.
  11. Apr 11, 2013 #71 of 113

    Cyber36 Legend

    Mar 20, 2008
    Byron NY
    That's why I'm slowly unbecoming a fan of every sport I love because THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT US.........
  12. Apr 11, 2013 #72 of 113
    Chuck W

    Chuck W Icon

    Mar 26, 2002
    Isn't it frustrating? When I was trying to figure out my situation, nobody, not one single entity even cared enough to send me a real response, other than a standard canned response. The only real help I got was a couple members here that had contacts.

    I am really pulling for that blackout lawsuit that is moving forward now. I'd really like to see these leagues try to explain their blackout lunacy, with a straight face, to the courts.
  13. Apr 11, 2013 #73 of 113

    hazard Cool Member

    Aug 27, 2008
    Similar response for me so far too.

    Nothing directly from the Pirates.

    MLB sent me a canned response that contained a link to I politely responded telling them I knew what I was blacked out from, I was trying to understand why I was blacked out out MLB.TV/EI AND from local RSNs at the same time. They replied with the exact same response. I doubt they'll respond a third time because I basically asked if they were able to read. :)

    Someone responded from DirecTV in a similar way. There were pieces that were canned, but they basically said I was not in the Pirates local area and that's why I didn't receive the RSN. Yet he did say this:

    "Our programming department, in conjunction with the sports governing body and the network rights holder, are the ones who determined which RSN are assigned to which zip codes.

    I am curious about the link you mentioned was provided to you by MLB support. Based on your feedback, it sounds like we haven't acquired the rights to air Root Sports Pittsburgh in your market (i.e. based on zip code)."

    I've sent them the link.

    My gut hunch tells me that nothing will come of this, but it may be fun to see how many times I can get MLB.COM to respond with the same response.
  14. Apr 11, 2013 #74 of 113

    JoeTheDragon Hall Of Fame

    Jul 21, 2008
    The mlb blackout lawsuit discovery will be a fun read.
  15. Apr 13, 2013 #75 of 113

    hazard Cool Member

    Aug 27, 2008
    As expected, I have received no further communication from anyone.
  16. Apr 13, 2013 #76 of 113

    jerrylove56 Godfather

    Jun 14, 2008
    North Alabama
    Agree. I somewhat understand the NFL blackout issues but MLB is driving me crazy with how they will blackout games in my area also. I live in North Ala. and when MLB channel “nationally” televises a Braves game its just about always “blackedout”; when ESPN televises a “national” game, Monday-Saturday that game is also “blackedout”. But when ESPN’s Sunday Night baseball has a Braves games its always televised like Fox's Saturdays games. Why?
  17. Apr 13, 2013 #77 of 113

    KyL416 Hall Of Fame

    Nov 10, 2005
    Tobyhanna, PA
    ESPN has the exclusive rights to the games they air on Sunday Nights, so there is no local coverage of those games. Other nights of the week it is not exclusive so the team's RSN has the coverage locally while ESPN is blacked out in those markets.
  18. Apr 17, 2013 #78 of 113

    hazard Cool Member

    Aug 27, 2008
    Just thought I'd pop in and post about this little oddity.

    So the blackout site on says that I'm blacked out of the Pirates games. But at least tonight, when I clicked on the game (just to see what would happen), it opened. I just finished watching Burnett lose a no-no in the 7th.

    I'd be curious to know if it'll be this way every night now.

    Guess when I'm in the mood to watch them, I'll have to remember to check.
  19. May 1, 2013 #79 of 113

    Bic2448 New Member

    May 1, 2013
    I am actually glad there are other Pirates fans in this area because I had thought I may be the only one out here. I had lived in Northern Virginia since 2005 and moved to Jefferson County, WV last year and was able to watch all Pirates games on Root Sports Pittsburgh last year with no problem. I also along with the original poster, received that email in late March informing me that no only will the RSN Root Sports Pittsburgh Pirates games be blacked out but they would also be blacked out on the MLB Extra Innings Package that I have purchased for the past 5+ years.

    What is crazy is I am willing to pay for all the extra packages to get a Pittsburgh Pirates broadcast but unfortunately if you live in Berkeley or Jefferson County, West Virginia you CANNOT watch the Pittsburgh Pirates no matter what. Not if you subscribe to MLB Extra Innings or subscribe to the package that has the local RSN of Root Sports Pittsburgh.

    All I can say as a lifelong Pirates fan (Been Watching that horrible team for over 20 years) that I kept the MLB Extra Innings Package and adopted the Kansas City Royals as my new team. I know this is stupid considering that I am still paying Major League Baseball for the right to watch every game except the one I really want but I have had a blast watching this scrappy Kansas City team. I hold the Pittsburgh Pirates responsible whether that makes sense or not and now my hope is that the Pittsburgh Pirates continue sucking just as they always have since I started watching those losers.

    Lets Go K.C.!
  20. May 2, 2013 #80 of 113

    TheRatPatrol Hall Of Fame

    Oct 1, 2003
    Phoenix, AZ
    I wonder if you can get the games on MLB.TV or on the local cable companies MLBEI package?

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