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No "Recently Deleted" Folder?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Barmstro, Sep 15, 2011.

  1. The Merg

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    Not that I need a Recently Deleted folder, but there have been a few times that I've deleted a show not realizing that the wife wants to watch it as well. Also, I'm in the habit of automatically selecting to delete a show after I finish watching it, so a few times I've watched a show, deleted it, and then immediately remembered that the wife asked me not to delete it as she wanted to watch it.

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  2. joed32

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    I never delete programs by mistake but sometimes I delete something because I'm not in the mood for it or whatever. Then a day or so later regret deleting it and wish I could get it back. Sometimes you just want to show it to someone else. It would be a nice feature to have and I don't see any downside to it.

    Everyone here knows that when you delete something from a hard drive only the address is deleted and the space is made available to be recorder over. The program is still there until you use that space for something else. Seems like an easy thing to implement but maybe they have a good reason for not doing it.
     
  3. skoolpsyk

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    I've had many near-fatal heart attacks when this has happened to me!!!

    definitely need a recently deleted folder!
     
  4. Richierich

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    I had Selected a Recording and it didn't jump down so I Pressed Down again and it jumped once but there were 2 Down Presses in the Queue but only one was acted upon and then I Confirmed Delete and then it magically jumped down to the Next thing which was a Jay Leno Folder with over 100 Episodes in it and started Delelting them and wouldn't let me Cancel out of the Deletion Process.
     
  5. RunnerFL

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    But when you confirmed the deletion you were asked if you wanted to delete the Leno folder/group. You could have said no at that point.
     
  6. HoTat2

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    Unless he means that in the only delete confirmation message which displayed it listed no mention that the Leno folder/group was included in the deletion.

    Kinda like a combination of a software anomaly triggered by the slow response of the box.
     
  7. BAHitman

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    All of my DVRs HDDs are at 2% available with exception of my HR34 simply because the 2TB drive is not full yet. and most of them have 1-2TB drives.

    NOBODY in my household deletes ANYTHING. the DVR does that for us. with MRV, you can turn off remote deletes so it's not so easy to delete shows. We simply remove the blue K from the show when we are done watching it... so if someone missed it, they can go back and watch it...

    MY DVRs are no slower since the drives filled up than they were when the drives were empty.
     
  8. skoolpsyk

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    what happens is that question IS NOT DISPLAYED (or more accurately is displayed for a micro-second before it moves on and deletes)

    the receiver appears to be not responding because it is so slow and "locks up"

    so you're pressing these buttons trying to get the receiver to work and then all the sudden all these things start happening at once

    before you know it not only is the folder you intended to delete gone but it has now moved to the next folder and deletes the next one!

    it's like a log jam of delete/enter/yes signals all start to flow

    the only way to do it is to cautiously press delete, wait about 20 seconds to see if anything happens, try again, wait, enter the next command, wait...

    it can take several minutes just to delete something
     
  9. billsharpe

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    FiOS includes a restore delete function, although they haven't removed the "Are you sure" prompt when I delete a program.

    I tried this out once and restored a recent delete just to see if it worked. It did. I have no idea if if would work on all the shows that it lists as being in the deleted files folder.
     
  10. RunnerFL

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    When you're deleting an entire folder it tells you what folder you're deleting, every time.
     
  11. RunnerFL

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    It's always displayed. The only reason you only see it for "a micro-second" is because you get too impatient and hit select before it pops up.
     
  12. Beerstalker

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    Yes it is because you hit select before the question pops up, but sometimes when the receiver starts responding slowly to commands it is easy to do. I myself have done this on a couple occasions. Scrolling through the playlist trying to clean things out and I hit red, down, select, and next thing I know the cursor moves down to a different show and deletes it instead of the one that I was trying to delete because the DVR had buffered in other keypresses.

    If the receivers responded to the remote better I think less people would have this issue, or make this request.

    I wouldn't mind it if it we had something like how I understand the TIVO worked. You delete a program and it moves into a trash bin. All the programs stay in the trash bin recorded on the hard drive until that space is needed to record something else. Then the oldest items in the trash bin gets removed to make room for the new recording and it's gone forever. Anything else can be restored though if you end up needing it again.
     
  13. RunnerFL

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    Not if you know that the unit can sometimes be quirky and know you should wait a moment to be sure. Based on the amount of people here that complain about slow response at times I'm pretty sure people know to expect it.

    Take it slow, it's not a race, and don't stack keypresses if you know to expect the DVR to be slow to respond.

    Again, people know to expect it...

    Or better yet just don't delete anything. Set your HR to handle deletions for you by configuring how many episodes of a show you want, if you want something deleted when space is low, something you want to keep until you specifically say delete it, etc. The options are all there.

    I'm not saying a deleted items folder would be bad, clearly it wouldn't. And I'm not saying there's not an issue with speed on some boxes, clearly there is. I just don't see how people are still blaming the box, or DirecTV, when they know how to work around it.
     
  14. Beerstalker

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    The problem is it's not always predictable. Sometimes my receivers appear to be funtioning at a normal speed so I get careless and then all the sudden they slow down right at a bad moment.

    I'm not super upset about this as some people seem to be, I deal with it, but it would be nice if there was a way to get the recording back if something like this were to happen.

    No way. I don't want my receiver deciding what to keep or delete. I want it to record everything I tell it to record because I plan on watching everything I record. However every now and then things come up and my DVR gets full so I (or my wife) have to go through and delete the items we feel like we are willing to give up on watching in order to make room. With me it tends to be stuff like Justified that I plan on buying on Blu-Ray eventually so I just delete the whole season and have to wait for the Blu-Ray to watch it. It happens more often with my wife who records stuff like House Hunters, Ellen, and Doctor Phil, which air pretty much every day. Those tend to fill up her DVR if she gets busy so she then goes through and deletes episodes that don't sound all that interesting to her. She doesn't want the DVR just to decide to delete anything more than 5 episodes, she wants to make the decision on her own.

    Also, another good reason is that it seems to be the fuller the hard drive on a DVR the worse the response is, so letting it fill up rather than deleting stuff yourself isn't the greatest idea if you don't want your receivers lagging.
     
  15. Richierich

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    Yes, it does but I knew what I was Deleting and then it Jumped Down after I had Selected and Confirmed to Delete it and it may have stated Jay Leno but I was not looking for that as I had already seen that I was Deleting the Episode above the Jay Leno Folder.

    If not for the Lag Problem I would Never have Deleted the Jay Leno Folder but it still would be Nice if Direct could give us that Option which would not be hard to do Codewise and it would not take any resources to do so.

    Those people who choose not to use it would not lose anything because the Option is there.

    You have it on a PC so why not include it on our DVR which is a PC running Directv Software so we can View and Record Programs we want???
     
  16. RunnerFL

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    Yeah, I get the not always predictable thing but don't you always prepare for it? It's kind of like the brakes on your car... If they feel "weird" or don't respond properly, even once, aren't you cautious from then on until you get them fixed?

    Yeah, I've noticed you're pretty level headed. :) I agree, it would be nice to have but not as a stop gap measurement because people can't figure out what they are deleting and when. :lol:


    But it's not deciding for you. You're explicitly telling it what to delete and when.

    I've seen others report that. I haven't experienced it myself though because I have 2TB in each DVR and rarely get to less than 65% available.
     
  17. RunnerFL

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    Don't go nuts on the keypresses. :lol:

    Very true but what if adding it led to other problems that people complained about?
     
  18. Richierich

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    I do it to get people's attention and to Highlight certain Words I want to Emphasize!!! (or to drive some people Nuts). :lol:

    It would be simple to implement and it doesn't cause any problems on my PC. All you do is re-establish an address directory pointer to the Deleted Recording and remove the Delete Flag.
     
  19. RunnerFL

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    Well most of us know that. Most of us also know there's a tendency for new features to introduce new issues in DirecTV firmware too.
     
  20. Jerry_K

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    For sure. It is not a TiVo and never will be.
     

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