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Nomad External Drive Suggestions

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by Beerstalker, Oct 12, 2011.

  1. markrogo

    markrogo Godfather

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    Yeah, it can make sense.

    First of all, 99% of people can't make use of 15x the capacity. You are talking 500GB I presume, which is 800 hours of capacity. Most people have nowhere near that much DVR capacity, let alone that much recorded. Nomad can >only< hold things that are still on the DVR. And you only >need< to hold things you want to tote around on a portable device.

    Second of all, it means a rotating storage disc, which will make some modicum of noise when it's doing its thing. The flash drive will be silent.

    Now, if you do have a ton of DVR space >and< you want to carry a ton of stuff with you, then the 500GB drive makes a ton of sense. It's a bargain and, as I said above, should be power efficient as well. But if you're more "conventional" and think that 80 hours of Nomad-ready stuff is plenty, then the flash drive is a perfectly reasonable, inexpensive enough, silent, super low-power way to go.
     
  2. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    It makes plenty of sense - if you don't need the capacity, you don't spend the money - why that is so hard to understand is amazing.

    Maintaining an extensive library of content on nomad is not a requirement. 48GB in total holds tons of content.

    These are the things one learns when actually having the device with DirecTV as a service.
     
  3. trh

    trh This Space for Sale

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    Sounds like my wife.
    "I bought it because it was 50% off."
    "But you didn't need it in the first place."
    "But I saved us 50%."
     
  4. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    :rotfl::lol:
     
  5. RobertE

    RobertE New Member

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    You forgot one.

    "They were 50% off, so I bought 2"
    "But you didn't need it in the first place."
    "but they were 50% off"
    :p
     
  6. Diana C

    Diana C Hall Of Fame DBSTalk Club

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    I think the point that this thread has brought forth is that almost any USB storage device seems to work well. In my case, I had 2 drives for my previous laptop and when I sold it, I kept the extra drive as a spare. Since it wasn't being used, I bought a 2.5" USB case for $10.00 and hooked it up to the Nomad. It sits next to the Nomad and is virtually silent (you have to put your ear about 4" away from the drive to hear anything).

    If I didn't have that laying around, I probably would have used a 16GB or 32GB thumb drive.
     
  7. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    Well said.
     
  8. markrogo

    markrogo Godfather

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    Sure, sure, you had a perfectly good solution. And many people here would be totally comfortable getting a 2.5" enclosure and making a mini-external drive. Some wouldn't.

    It's hard to imagine anyone who couldn't manage the thumb drive insertion, on the other hand. :)

    For whatever it's worth, I just bought the cheapest 32GB thumb drive for $30 on sale at Fry's (to make Windows backup discs on a laptop that came without recover discs not for Nomad); I suspect that getting 32GB USB sticks for $20 is something that will be routine inside of a year. And Nomad's with them will still store insane amounts of content.
     
  9. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    It's clear a number of folks in this thread disagree.

    Value is in the eyes of the beholder....and what "makes sense" to you may likely not be the same for others.
     
  10. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    Bingo! Well said.

    Looking at just cost per gig of storage is perhaps akin to saying a motor scooter is better than a mercedes as it gets 10 times the mpg....[or maybe not; analogies are tough!]:sure:
     
  11. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

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    Except in this case, the Mercedes is only half again the money, provides better protection and carries all your rowdy shows in relative comfort.
     
  12. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    Very expensive scooter you have in mind, and a very cheap MB.....

    I did say "perhaps".....:lol:
     
  13. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    Months of nomad use have proven that "theory" to not be the case on multiple fronts.

    BTW - I also own both a Mercedes and a Honda (really) - either one successfully get you to the grocery store or across town just fine, and both also hold many weeks worth of groceries.

    The solid point made earlier by someone else sums it up best - users should get enough storage to address their needs - that varies by nomad user.

    The key point to the OP is that a USB flash drive is an option that many users won't even require, but if so, it's a reliable and low cost addition that provides successful and significant external storage expansion.
     
  14. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

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    That pretty well sums up my point.
     
  15. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    I guess someone would have to actually own a nomad to have any real idea as to the appropriate storage size - obviously that would exclude any Dish users.

    Car analogies are not only totally irrelevant, but have no alignment to the nomad storage and user experience. Like cars though...one size does not fit all.
     
  16. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

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    A pretty compelling argument could be made that DISH users know considerably more about using USB connected drives with their equipment than the average DIRECTV user does.
    LaxGuy admitted as much when he made the first automotive analogy.

    Storage is storage and if both are operationally equivalent, it comes down to a question of value. Flash drives generally aren't a good value compared to other forms of mass storage when employed in a stationary scenario.
     
  17. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    Good value! Storage is storage! Stationary scenario!

    This is in your opinion, natch, but: a flash drive requires no external power, has no moving parts, and is way more compact than a USB drive. While more expensive per byte, it's preferred in some applications.
     
  18. Diana C

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    Flash drive advantages: small size, low power, reliability (long MTBF)
    Flash drive disadvantages: higher cost per byte, total capacity limits, slower access

    Hard drive advantages: low cost per byte, much larger potential capacity, high speed
    Hard drive disadvantages: physically larger, higher power consumption, shorter MTBF

    My humble suggestions....

    - Power consumption is a very minor concern
    - Few users will need more than the built in memory, fewer still more than double the built in
    - Speed of access may be an issue if downloading a large amount of data (however, if downloading while preparing, the Nomad will slow the download anyway, making this a moot point)

    Again, to answer the question originally posed: Looks like ANY USB storage device will work.

    Editorial comment: having been away from these forums for a few years, it is interesting to see little has changed. ;)
     
  19. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    Not even close....all wishful thinking.

    One either has a nomad and know how it works firsthand, and the corresponding storage results - or you don't. Dish user input is pure guesswork if even that.

    The various posters here who have a nomad already know these things, and the purpose of this thread is to aid the OP in answering the fundamental question - what kinds of storage options there are, if they work, and what kinds of results does a nomad user get.

    Since there is also no firsthand knowledge by Dish users as to how much storage is used for various program sizes, and also no firsthand idea as to the cumulative total of a typical or even specific user's daily, weekly, or other recording content desired for transport to mobile devices - that's all speculation fluff as well.
     
  20. LameLefty

    LameLefty I used to be a rocket scientist

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    Getting away from the various doggy-droppings contaminating the thread from people who have no first-hand knowledge of nomad™, I just plugged a Thermaltake drive dock with a spare WD "Green" A/V 1TB drive into mine. No issues formatting and using the space. As soon as I opened up the app on my iPhone and brought up the System Info screen, I got a message that there was a new external drive connected, and asking me if I wished to use it along with a warning that all existing data on the drive would be lost if I agreed. One tap and five seconds later and I was back in business. :)
     

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