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Non available channels in the 700s-900's

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by mwdxer, Mar 10, 2018.

  1. mwdxer

    mwdxer Well-Known Member

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    I was just checking the list of foreign channels that are on the 110 & 119 birds. There are quite a few, but my receiver skips over them. even when I switch to "all channels". Any idea why? Do you have to have a different smart card? I did need one to get BBC World for the 211k.
     
  2. P Smith

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    how you did that checking ? by Lyngsat site ?
    what LNB you using ? Dp,DPP, DPH ... ?
     
  3. mwdxer

    mwdxer Well-Known Member

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    I was checking the Echostar information site. I am using a DP LNBF on my 211k.
     
  4. dishrich

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    Those, as well as some other channels like RSN's you do NOT get as part of your package, are non-visible to non-subbed receivers...
     
  5. mwdxer

    mwdxer Well-Known Member

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    In other words, even if a channel is "open", free for a time and you have a dish pointed at that bird, your receiver may not see the channel?
     
  6. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    that would be opposite approach for main dish idea - show all channels, but make popup messages if you're not subbed to it with an invitation to expand your subscription
     
  7. mwdxer

    mwdxer Well-Known Member

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    That is the way, Dish should do it, have all available channels there, including the RSN's. If you do not see the channel, then how do you know one is available? I do not understand why the receivers do not "see" every channels.
     
  8. dishrich

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    I would think not, because then obviously in that case, it IS (or should be) considered a "subbed" channel & your receiver should then be able to see it.
    What channel(s) that you know for a fact ARE open/free now, but that your receiver can't see?
     
  9. mwdxer

    mwdxer Well-Known Member

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    I read a few days ago some channels were "open" but in checking today, it must have been temporary, as I see nothing now. Maybe I should use the 30" wing dish for the 118.7. I would have to switch out the LNBF for a regular ku one, but I guess that is another option. Often there will be "free" previews on the 118.7.
     
  10. RBA

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    What channels on 118.7 would be worth watching if in freeview? I thought that satellite was for forign language channels.
     
  11. James Long

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    Current Free or Preview Channels
    100 HOME DISH Home (Interactive) (ITV Free Free) 110° TP 8
    100 MULTI DISH Multiview (Interactive) (ITV XiP Preview) 110° TP 13
    100 HOME DISH Home (Interactive) (ITV Free Free) 72.7° TP 21
    100 MULTI DISH Multiview (Interactive) (ITV XiP Preview) 72.7° TP 23
    101 D101 DISH 101 (SD Free Free) 119° TP 14 and (SD MPEG4 Free Free) 72.7° TP 31
    102 STDIO DISH Studio Channel (SD Preview) 119° TP 14
    103 PREVW Free Preview Announcements (SD Preview) 110° TP 21 and (SD MPEG4 Preview) 72.7° TP 9
    9590 HOPR (103 HD PartTime) Hopper How To (HD XiP Free Free) 110° TP 13 and 72.7° TP 23
    104 VALU (72 Local) (Infomercials) (SD Preview) 119° TP 10 and (SD MPEG4 Preview) 72.7° TP 31
    123 MALL (86 Local) (Shopping) (SD Preview) 110° TP 10 and 72.7° TP 31
    134 EVINE EVINE Live (Shopping) (SD Preview) 119° TP 14 and (SD MPEG4 Preview) 72.7° TP 7
    137 QVC (71 Local) Quality Value Choice (SD Instant Order Preview) 119° TP 6 and (SD MPEG4 Instant Order Preview) 61.5° TP 7
    148 CSPRT (SD MPEG4 Preview) 61.5° TP 9 and (SD Preview) 110° TP 2
    151 COLLG College Sports (ITV XiP Preview) 110° TP 13 and 72.7° TP 23
    220 MALL (Shopping) (SD Instant Order Preview) 110° TP 10 and 72.7° TP 31
    221 CRAFT (Shopping) (SD Preview) 110° TP 10 and (SD MPEG4 Preview) 72.7° TP 31
    222 HSN (84 Local) Home Shopping Network (SD Instant Order Preview) 119° TP 16 and (SD MPEG4 Instant Order Preview) 72.7° TP 9
    224 EPIC (85 Local) (Infomercials) (SD Instant Order Preview) 110° TP 10 and (SD MPEG4 Instant Order Preview) 72.7° TP 31
    225 SALE (Infomercials) (SD Preview) 119° TP 10 and (SD MPEG4 Preview) 72.7° TP 31
    226 HSN2 Home Shopping Network 2 (SD Instant Order Preview) 110° TP 10 and (SD MPEG4 Instant Order Preview) 72.7° TP 5
    227 JTV (83 Local) (Shopping Channel) (SD Instant Order Preview) 110° TP 10 and (SD MPEG4 Instant Order Preview) 72.7° TP 5
    228 YOUTV EVINE Live (Shopping) (SD Preview) 110° TP 10 and 72.7° TP 31
    229 GEMS (Shopping Channel) (SD Preview) 110° TP 10 and (SD MPEG4 Preview) 72.7° TP 7
    230 ICTV (Infomercials) (SD Preview) 119° TP 16 and (SD MPEG4 Preview) 72.7° TP 5
    255 QVC2 QVC Plus (SD Preview) 110° TP 10 and (SD MPEG4 Preview) 72.7° TP 21
    257 SBN Sonlife Broadcasting Network (SD Preview) 110° TP 21 and (SD MPEG4 Preview) 72.7° TP 15
    259 INSP Inspirational TV (SD Preview) 119° TP 6 and (SD MPEG4 Preview) 61.5° TP 7
    259 INSP Inspirational TV (SD MPEG4 Preview) 77° TP 10
    274 SHPLC The Liquidation Channel (SD Preview) 110° TP 2 and (SD MPEG4 Preview) 72.7° TP 5
    275 YOUTV (Shopping) (SD Preview) 110° TP 10 and 72.7° TP 31
    276 SMART (Shopping) (SD Preview) 119° TP 13 and (SD MPEG4 Preview) 72.7° TP 31
    278 EPIC (SD Preview) 110° TP 10 and (SD MPEG4 Preview) 72.7° TP 31
    282 VALU (SD Preview) 119° TP 10 and (SD MPEG4 Preview) 72.7° TP 31
    298 PREM Premium Showcase (Interactive) (ITV XiP Preview) 61.5° TP 15 and 110° TP 13
    349 STDIO DISH Studio Channel (SD Preview) 119° TP 14
    471 ORDER Pre-Order PPV (SD Preview) 119° TP 10 and (SD MPEG4 Preview) 72.7° TP 22
    472 ORDER Pre-Order PPV (HD Preview) 110° TP 10 and 72.7° TP 22
    473 ORDER Pre-Order PPV (SD Preview) 110° TP 16 and (SD MPEG4 Preview) 72.7° TP 22
    474 ORDER Pre-Order PPV (HD Preview) 110° TP 8 and 72.7° TP 22
    480 ALOCK Adult Lock (SD Free Free) 119° TP 14 and (SD MPEG4 Free Free) 72.7° TP 31
    500 ONPPV ON PPV (Promo Channel) (SD Free Free) 110° TP 9 and (SD MPEG4 Free Free) 72.7° TP 21
    659 SHAHD Shahid - Arabic Video on Demand (SD Preview) 118° TP 2
    829 D101 DISH 101 (SD Free Free) 119° TP 14 and (SD MPEG4 Free Free) 72.7° TP 31
    870 ZONA ZONA Futbol (ITV XiP Preview) 110° TP 13 and 72.7° TP 23
    883 VALU (Infomercials) (SD Preview) 119° TP 10 and (SD MPEG4 Preview) 72.7° TP 31
    998 BTV Business TV (SD Preview) 129° TP 21 and 121° TP 15
    998 BTV Business TV (SD MPEG4 Preview) 72.7° TP 31
    5711 NIT-H (HD Free Free) 121° TP 21 No EPG
    5712 NIT-V (SD Free Free) 121° TP 21 No EPG
    5713 NIT-M (SD MPEG4 Free Free) 121° TP 21 No EPG
    5714 TEST (HD Free Free) 121° TP 21 No EPG
    5715 D101 DISH 101 (SD Free Free) 121° TP 21
    9532 ICTV (81 Local) (Infomercials) (SD Preview) 119° TP 16 and (SD MPEG4 Preview) 72.7° TP 5
    9582 D61.5 61.5 Test Channel (SD Free Free) 61.5° TP 14
    9583 D118 118 Test Channel (SD Free Free) 118° TP 7
    9584 D121 121 Test Channel (SD Free Free) 121° TP 21
    9598 D110 Dish 500 Test Channel (SD Free Free) 110° TP 10
    9599 D129 129 Test Channel (SD Free Free) 129° TP 21
    9605 FLXPK (SD Preview) 110° TP 8 and (SD MPEG4 Preview) 72.7° TP 21
    9606 CHPK (SD Preview) 110° TP 8 and (SD MPEG4 Preview) 72.7° TP 22
    9642 FETV (82 Local) Family Entertainment TV (SD Preview) 110° TP 10 and (SD MPEG4 Preview) 72.7° TP 31
    9643 SMART (87 Local) (Advertising) (SD Preview) 119° TP 13 and (SD MPEG4 Preview) 72.7° TP 31
    9644 REAL (94 Local) (Infomercials) (SD Preview) 110° TP 10 and (SD MPEG4 Preview) 72.7° TP 31
    9645 DEAL (95 Local) (Advertising) (SD Preview) 110° TP 10 and (SD MPEG4 Preview) 72.7° TP 31
    9646 BEAUT (73 Local) (Advertising) (SD Preview) 110° TP 10 and (SD MPEG4 Preview) 72.7° TP 31
    9807 RITTV (SD Preview) 118° TP 15

    I don't see any 700-800 channels on 119-110. Are you thinking about 118 (500+ or 1000+ dish unless one home brews)?

    Many unsubscribed channels are intentionally marked hidden. But when they are (rarely) put in preview they become available and unhidden. For channels such as internationals it is a choice. Unsubscribed channels in the guide are a good advertisement to let non-subscribers know they exist. But they can add clutter and (in some cases) cause problems.

    All locals are marked hidden so one does not see the thousands of locals in other markets conflicting in the guide.

    Besides being "not hidden" you have to have that orbital location in your system. 118 is not 119. Until you add the correct LNB correctly aimed and do a check switch adding 118 to your system you will not see channels there (subscribed or not).
     
  12. mwdxer

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    Thanks for the total list of channels in the open mode. You are right, not much there to be interested in. I think I had read that the 61.5 has a couple English language all news channels from India and the Middle East. I am just a news junkie, that it is an interest of mine. I have a Roku with a huge selection of English all news channels. There is even one from Pakistan and Kazakhstan now. I wish dish offered a nice package of news channels from around the world. Countries with all news channels in English include, UK (BBC), France24, DWTV (Germany), Russia Today, NHK (Japan), Euro News (France & Belguim), Press TV (Iran), and others. Canada even has a couple.
     
  13. mwdxer

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    I did a bit of experimenting and I clicked on channel 870 that is supposed to be the preview mode. My 211k went to 869. I am unable to get 870. You mentioned the channel is on the 110, so I should get it, but I do not. It looks like Dish does block channels I do not sub to in a package. I do not know if a different receiver would see the channel. BBC World was blocked until I got the new smart card.
     
  14. James Long

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    870 is only available on "XiP" receivers (Hopper/Joey).
     
  15. mwdxer

    mwdxer Well-Known Member

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    Interesting. Then if I had a Hopper/Joey I would see more channels? Unfortunately the OTA dongle which is not as good as the OTA tuner in the 211k and my DP LNBs I presume would not work with the Hopper/Joey, so switching probably would not be a good for me. The OTA tuner in the 211k is very good. Too bad Dish no longer has a built-in OTA tuner in the receivers.
     
  16. KyL416

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    Notice the ITV next to the name? It's not an actual linear channel. Zona Futbol is just an interactive mosaic of the spanish language sports stations when they air soccer along with a game finder:

    Zona Fútbol: Mejores partidos de ESPN, Fox, y Univisión | DishLATINO

    The other XiP only ITV channels are relatively similar, interactive features that only work with Hoppers/Joeys.
     
    Last edited: Mar 13, 2018
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    mwdxer Well-Known Member

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    Okay, I understand it. Being an Interactive channel rather than a regular one. No wonder I do not see it. Thanks for the clarification.
     
  18. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    It is a lot like channel 100 on your receiver, just different channels.
     

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