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Noob: Confused about Genie??

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by jedi5, Apr 7, 2013.

  1. Apr 7, 2013 #1 of 16
    jedi5

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    Current Dish customer and I'm thinking about maybe jumping ship to DTV.

    Please help me understand how the Genie works.

    Genie connects to main TV.
    Genie is your DVR.

    You then get a mini genie client for each additional TV.
    You can record using the mini client, right?

    It says that every TV will need a client that can easily be hidden.
    I have 2 plasmas hung a wall (clean look) with all wiring behind the wall.
    No furniture, no nothing against the wall.
    How would the client be hidden in this situation?

    Per month, what is the cost to rent or lease a Genie and 2 clients?
    I swear I clicked on every possible link on the DTV site and couldn't find
    the cost anywhere.

    Thanks everyone!
     
  2. Apr 7, 2013 #2 of 16
    Davenlr

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    Genie is a DVR with 5 tuners. Each client you add, takes over one of those tuners. If you have 3 clients, you have what amounts to 3 one tuner DVRs in each room, and a two tuner DVR in the main room.

    You CAN use standard DirecTv receivers with built in tuners, if you wish.

    The clients record using the main 5 tuner Genie DVR.

    The clients can be hidden behind the TV, or anywhere a ROKU box would hide.
    Velcro it to the back of the flat panel would be one way.

    The month cost for Genie with HD service is $25, plus $6 addtional per client box, added to the basic subscription rate. The fee for receivers (instead of clients) is also $6.
     
  3. Apr 8, 2013 #3 of 16
    dpeters11

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    Though the client only uses a tuner when it's playing live TV.

    You can set something to record on the Genie from a client or from a receiver. You cannot do that from another DVR (can only set some isn't to record on that DVR.)
     
  4. Apr 8, 2013 #4 of 16
    Mike Greer

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    I would say if you're going to do the Genie just skip the clients and use H25s or HR24s at each remote TV. You lose the ability to 'control' the Genie from the remote TVs but if you ask me the Genie clients have got a long way to go before they're ready for prime-time.

    See this thread and look around at other threads regarding troubles with the Genie 'clients'.

    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=213836

    At the very least check out the clients in action before you commit. Once you install the clients you'll be stuck.....
     
  5. Apr 8, 2013 #5 of 16
    sangs

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    I've had the setup with several clients for almost a month now and they've worked flawlessly. Takes a couple seconds on startup, but no big deal. Very convenient.
     
  6. Apr 8, 2013 #6 of 16
    Mike Greer

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    No trouble fast-forwarding or with the hitting the arrow button once and having it move 3 or 4 places?

    That is good news - maybe there is hope!
     
  7. Apr 8, 2013 #7 of 16
    sangs

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    Not yet (knock wood)! Granted, the C31s I use are not in what I'd consider the two main viewing rooms - those have an HR34 and HR24 - but when used, they've worked as advertised.
     
  8. Apr 8, 2013 #8 of 16
    jedi5

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    Awesome, this is what I was looking for.
    So does the homeowner or the DTV tech hide/velcro the client?

    Thanks for the monthly cost info.
    I searched and searched and could not find the cost anywhere.:)

    That's the thing, I *don't* want a receiver at every TV.
    I wish DTV had the same set up as Dish where one receiver could control
    2 different TVs.
     
  9. Apr 8, 2013 #9 of 16
    Mike Greer

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    Just giving you fair warning - most Dish Network subscribers are not aware of the 'slow-downs' they'll have to get used to when switching to DirecTV - by the way the H25 is a tiny receiver...

    H25 Receiver:
    Width: 8.66"
    Height: 1.12"
    Depth: 5.75"


    C31 Client:
    Width: 5.5"
    Height: 1"
    Depth: 3.5

    Can be hidden much like the Genie clients but much much much faster to use and the cost is the same both the buy in and the monthly cost....
     
  10. CCarncross

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    You could always stay with Dish if you really like that setup. Has Dish given you HD at both locations now or is tv2 still SD?
     
  11. jedi5

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    So the H25 can also hidden/Velcroed behind a TV?
    That's the only way it would work in my setup.


    I do like the setup with Dish but I'm also up for trying something new.
    Before Dish, I was a DTV customer.
    No, TV2 is still SD... at least for me it is.
     
  12. Mike Greer

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    Yes - depending on how much space you have behind there.... Both are pretty darn small.

    You'll also probably want to do an RF remote either way.

    I don't think either of them come with RF remotes and the H25 would also require an HD25RFANT RF Dongle Adapter I believe.

    You may be able to get away with IR but if you're hiding the box behind the TV it may be a little iffy on IR.

    The biggest downside with the H25 rather than using the C31 is that you can't pause live TV..... You'd have to hit record first, then you could pause, rewind etc. You'll also have to manage the Genie from the Genie.

    You really should check it out for yourself. I am more picky when it comes to speed but I would never go with the client even though I'd give up some functionality. For me the client is way to slow and has too much trouble just navigating around and doing basic things like fast-forward...
     
  13. sangs

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    No RF dongle is required for the C31 however. It's built in, which means even less clutter.
     
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    I have a C31 client in our guest bedroom which was installed on 3/14. I've tried repeatedly to set it up for RF with no success. It never responds to the RF signal to select the final Done. The remote is a RC65X which came with the C31.
     
  15. RAD

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    The RC65X is not a RF remote, you need the RC65RX for the RF version.
     
  16. TomF

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    Great, I got a RC65X remote with the HR34. I'm using a Harmony remote so I don't need it for the HR34 and I won't be using that in RF mode anyway. I tried it with the C31 and I was able to switch to RF. It wouldn't control the TV on/off so I reset the remote, ran the RF setup again, added the TV again, and now everything works fine! Thanks!
     

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