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NYC cracks down on Soda

Discussion in 'The OT' started by fluffybear, Sep 13, 2012.

  1. Sep 20, 2012 #61 of 149
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    Never had Joe's OMG burger ... and I don't think I plan to get one.

    But their regular-sized sandwiches are pretty tasty. I might head there tomorrow morning for PR-E-C. Yum.
     
  2. Sep 20, 2012 #62 of 149
    Rich

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    Yup, the property taxes have risen and risen and if it gets much worse, we'll be moving across the Delaware River into PA. Lots of nice houses there for a whole lot less than you'd think. And acres of land. Hate the thought of moving tho. Hate the thought of rewiring a whole house for D* again.

    Our governor put a 2% cap on property taxes and, naturally, some of the towns are ignoring that. This is, after all, New Jersey!

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  3. Sep 20, 2012 #63 of 149
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    You must be even closer to Joe's than we are, no?

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  4. Sep 20, 2012 #64 of 149
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    3-4 miles
     
  5. Sep 26, 2012 #65 of 149
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    or they could create self serve pop machines that require scanning a bar code in order to use the pop machine and to determine weather or not to allow regular pop depending on the cup size read by the bar code.
     
  6. Sep 27, 2012 #66 of 149
    fluffybear

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    Was there a weather clause in this policy? ;)
     
  7. Nov 9, 2012 #67 of 149
    Lord Vader

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    I heard today on the radio, after a gentleman was turned away in NYC from giving food to a homeless shelter, that in NYC it is illegal to give food to charitable organizations because Mayor Bloomberg got his Board of Health Commissioners to prohibit the donating of food that hasn't previously been cleared by NYC Health Officials to be low in salt and fat.

    So now when someone wants to donate food to a charitable organization in NYC, it can't be done if the food hasn't been cleared by NYC as being low in salt and fat. Oy vay!

    Good God! When will this nanny state crap stop?!? :nono2:
     
  8. Nov 11, 2012 #68 of 149
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    Just to be specific - that would be Nanny City. That kind of crap would never get passed here in NH.
     
  9. Nov 11, 2012 #69 of 149
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    I'm begining to think the citizens of NYC are turning into sheep. There was a time when they would have stormed Gracie Mansion, dragged the likes of Michael Bloomberg into the streets and tarred and feathered him for his actions.
     
  10. Nov 11, 2012 #70 of 149
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    Hard to do when the mayor has a private jet and a house in Bermuda.
     
  11. Nov 11, 2012 #71 of 149
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    So we now live in a country where soda pop is banned in schools and NYC but pot is legal in Colorado and Washington. :shrug:
     
  12. Nov 11, 2012 #72 of 149
    Lord Vader

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    This crap has got to stop. Why do we as a citizenry allow this by electing the same people? This is yet another example in a long line of examples of our freedoms and liberties being chipped away.
     
  13. Nov 11, 2012 #73 of 149
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    Really? Freedom and liberties being abridged through a soda curtailment program? In a city you'd never live in - in the future.
     
  14. Nov 12, 2012 #74 of 149
    Lord Vader

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    Exactly. What worries me is that many folks like you cannot see this happening right in front of their very eyes.

    A ban on drinks larger than 16 oz. A ban on donating food that hasn't been approved as low enough in salt and fat. And on and on...
     
  15. Nov 12, 2012 #75 of 149
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    Easy---Makers, meet takers. Takers, meet makers. Guess which group is growing at the expense (literally) of the other?
     
  16. Nov 12, 2012 #76 of 149
    Lord Vader

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    Some people here ought to read your signature, zkc, because it's quite appropriate.
     
  17. Nov 12, 2012 #77 of 149
    Stewart Vernon

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    Let me separate your next two sentences... I think you'll see something interesting...

    I'm with you here. That ban is silly. Besides being intrusive and potentially freedom-infringing, it doesn't solve the problem it claims to solve... and I'm not convinced the problem is a problem anyway.

    While I'm with you in principle... the "beggars can't be choosers" kind of applies here.

    Think for a second...

    The recipients of these donated goods are, according to some in the media lately, "moochers" and "takers"... I mean, you and I would be nice to give to a charity... but the only people helped by the charity, are arguably the same people that MANY people have been slamming recently as wanting handouts, welfare, etc.

    When you help your fellow man by donating food, you are participating voluntarily in a community/social system that takes from the "rich" and gives to the "poor"... albeit voluntarily rather than government enforced.

    The point here... I don't see people up in arms about the government running charities. What I see are people up in arms saying "nobody needs welfare" and "they should earn it like I do"... Those are two different positions.

    I am against government programs in many areas... but I am for charity workers that actually help people through voluntary donations from people who care about their fellow citizens.

    So... IF you want to help people through charity, but just want the government to stay out of your business... then it seems like that should be the message conveyed. Don't say "stop asking for handouts"... instead say "I will give to charity as long as the government stays out of it."

    See where I'm going there?

    You can't be simultaneously for charity and against people asking for handouts... because without the people asking/needing, charity has no purpose.

    You CAN absolutely be against government running of said charity... and that's where I am. Keep the charity voluntary and let people pitch in where their heart and pocketbooks permit them.

    Having said that... if you truly care and want to donate food to someone in need... why would you not be trying to donate something good for them?

    You wouldn't see a homeless man and offer to buy him a twinkie or a Snicker's would you? No... if you offered to help, you'd likely offer to buy him a meal at a place where he could eat something substantial OR you might give him food you buy at the grocery store OR you might just give him cash.

    You wouldn't buy him stuff that was bad for him in an effort to help him... or at least I wouldn't think so... So I see no reason why items deemed to be less healthy couldn't be refused by organizers who are trying to ensure that the donated goods are actually good for the people they are trying to feed.

    Or am I mis-reading something?
     
  18. Nov 12, 2012 #78 of 149
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    Wait... Weed is now legal in 2 states, but our freedoms and liberties being chipped away? :lol: Seems the opposite to me.

    I still find it ironic the same group screaming our freedoms and liberties being chipped away, are the same ones wanting government to keep freedoms and rights away from same sex marriage, legalization of marijuana, and women having abortions. I guess then it's ok to take our freedoms and liberties.
     
  19. Nov 12, 2012 #79 of 149
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    I've wondered the same thing. Of course not all groups are like that, like the official stance of the Libertarian Party. Of course some are more Libertarian than others.
     
  20. Nov 12, 2012 #80 of 149
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    Mods - seems to me this thread has gone quite political in nature, something that is prohibited in the OT forum.
     

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