Official 811 Users Question & Comment Thread

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  1. chenrikson

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  2. garypen

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    That's one of the "bugs" of the 811. Because most HDTV's "zoom/wide/full" feature is disabled when using an HD input, such as DVI or component, the 4:3 programming from the 811 can only be seen at 4:3. The 811 itself needs a proper "zoom" feature, so that the image can be re-sized by the 811 before it reaches the TV.

    Of course, if you're using a non-HD input on your HDTV, you can use the TV's "zoom" settings to resize the image. You might consider that for SD programming. Of course, you'll have to wait until they fix another bug, the dark picture from the SD outputs.
     
  3. waltinvt

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    Actually the point of my post wasn't about adjusting for the 4:3 signal - I use my 508 into the tvs S-Vid and put it in "Cinerama" mode. It works fine (much better than the 811) as an acceptable alternative.

    The point I was really trying to make with the post is that most of us with widescreen tvs really would prefer NOT to have to adjust the signal to fit but would rather have a decent source of letterbox programming.

    I believe there is a real market for dedicated widescreen channels right now. A few that run nothing but letterbox format movies and a maybe a few that run a little of everything. I for one would be willing to pay for a programming package that provided a tier of widescreen only channels.

    I even speculate something like the "Widescreen Mirror Network", "WMN": A channel that provided a service to other networks by mirroring their programming in a widescreen format when its available. Channels could bid for time slots. I don't know, maybe I'm all wet but I really think it could take off.
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  5. chenrikson

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    Walt -- Have you registered? - I would guess so as you are allowed to post, but you might check out the parameters of your registration.

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  6. gpflepsen

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    The 811 does have a zoom feature. Use the * button on the remote to stretch or zoom the 4x3 picture or letter boxed 4x3 picture to fill the 16x9 screen. This works on the HD outputs, but not on the SD.
     
  7. jesskristn

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    have had the 811 for about 2 weeks and am seeing several of the issues identified in this thread. Being somewhat new to this, how does one identify the version of software and/or firmware installed on my 811. Also, is there any way to completely re-install the software?? confused and amazed!!!
     
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    Son of a b*tch!!!! Thanks! Works like a charm. I'm forever grateful about this excellent tip. I feel like an idiot for not knowing it was there.

    Is that a documented feature? I hadn't seen it anywhere. Plus, I've seen a number of posts wherein people complained about the lack of this feature.
     
  9. gpflepsen

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    Page 18 in the 811 owners manual. The lising is Format/Star Button.
     
  10. garypen

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    Owners manual? I wondered what those things were for. I always thought they were some kind of packing material.
     
  11. Broadband Lab Rat

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    LOL... It also has the word "Format" printed on the remote above the * button for those of us who don't read the manual... :)
     
  12. garypen

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    Good golly miss Molly, you're right!!! Since I don't use the platinum (colored plastic) remote, I didn't see it. I use one o' them universal learning dealies.

    Of course, now that I think about it, the platinum (colored plastic) remote can probably control all the same components. I may switch to it, as the "format" signal seems to be UHF instead of IR, and my learning remote can only learn IR.
     
  13. emkay

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    When I turn on closed captioning during a SD satellite broadcast, the captioning appears below the edge of my screen. Not sure if it matters, but I'm using component video. Has anyone else had this problem or know of a solution?
     
  14. mica618

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    Is anyone still having problems with the sound? im using the rca outputs from the 811 to the rca inputs on my sony receiver and im not getting 5.1 surround sound. Im doing the same with my directv receiver and the surround works perfect.
     
  15. Foxbat

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    I don't have my 811 yet, but I can tell you that unless you're using the Digital Dolby output from the 811 to your Sony, you won't get DD 5.1. The best you can do would be Dolby ProLogic from the analog stereo.
     
  16. mica618

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    Sorry but let me explain this better- my stereo doesnt have an optical out so all im wanting is the dolby prologic but the sound is very very low to the back channels and i have to put the volume on my sony receiver up to 20 with the 811, but if i switch to the directv i get the same sound volume at 12. the sound from the 811 has to be turned way up and the rear speakers sound horrible. Well i hope i explained that a little better. This is my second 811 this week as my first one just quit after 1 day.
     
  17. kstevens

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    I have my 811 set up to my Pioneer elite receiver with 7.1 sound and have no problems with back 4 speakers. Of course, this is using the digital out from the 811.

    Ken
     
  18. mica618

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    Thanks for letting me know. Im getting a new receiver soon so i will try the digital on it and see what happens. Maybe i will have to have dish send me another 811. It will be the third one in less that 2 weeks.
     
  19. Bobby94928

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    The receiver will accept UHF and IR. If you have any other Dish remotes, one that is not UHF-Pro, just program the "*" from it to your programmable. It works fine.
     
  20. garypen

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    Obviously the 811 accepts IR and RF. That's not the point. The point is that my learning remote won't learn this "format" button. I am assuming it is because it is an RF command, and the remote only learns IR. The command may actually be IR, not RF, and my current universal just can't handle this particular IR command. :confused:

    Have you taught a universal this "*" key? If so, which brand/model? I will be getting a Sony RM-AV3000 soon, so maybe it will be able to learn that command, if it is indeed IR.

    BTW, if I don't use the new Dish remote as my universal, why would I want to use an old Dish remote as one? :rolleyes:
     
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