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Official Echostar 8 Discussion

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by Scott Greczkowski, Oct 7, 2002.

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  1. Oct 11, 2002 #61 of 299
    wrate

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    Well, I don't know about proprietary information. I know that when the satellite was launched Dish did make a BIG DEAL out of it. So, it would seem logical that they would keep their customers updated on this situation. But, of course, that would only be if it was customers the company cared for. Obviously, stock holders only care how many satellites the company has, not how they are used.
     
  2. Oct 11, 2002 #62 of 299
    Mike123abc

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    I do not understand the wierd frequencies picked by D* for their satellites. Beyond the fact that they are all even it does not make sense. They shuffle around the channels all the time anyways. It would have made 100x more sense to use 22-32 even on D-7s for 119 and 21-31 odd on D-4s at 101. That way they could be used in the same slot at 101 if they wanted like E7/E8. Hope they pick 6 different frequencies from 22-32 that D-4s does not use.

    They need to think about the future. Someday they are going to want to put up a different satellite and having maximum flexibility of the satellites they have in orbit could be important.
     
  3. Oct 11, 2002 #63 of 299
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    Footprint.

    In Northern California, E*8 transponders are reading higher than E*5 double-power transponders.
     
  4. Oct 12, 2002 #64 of 299
    Mark Holtz

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    Here are my readings:

    - On 10/7 from 300 - 500am ET, transponders 13 & 14 on E*5 will be transfered over to E*8.

    10/2: 55 on 13, 86 on 14
    10/12: 89 on 13, 98-100 on 14

    - On 10/9, transponders 1,3,16,19 on E*5 will be transfered over to E*8

    10/2: 56 on 1, 65 on 3, 63 on 16, 65 on 19
    10/12: 93 on 1, 88 on 3, 103-104 on 16, 95 on 19

    - On 10/10, transponder 21 on E*5 will be transfered over to E*8

    10/2: 56 on 21
    10/12: 97 on 21
     
  5. Oct 13, 2002 #65 of 299
    johnsmith22

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    Does anyone know where the schedule goes from here. I seem to recall from the message that has disappeared that they will begin to fire up spotbeams tomorrow. I assume once that is done they will sort out the other transponders that are very weak and difficult to lock down here in PR and the islands.
     
  6. Oct 13, 2002 #66 of 299
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    From the moving that took place last week, one would be inclined to think that they'll finish with the basic cable/PPV/Spanish this week, which means transferring transmission of transponders 22 to 31 to E*8. But the message did not say this, it ended with transponder 21 being moved and said that spots would light up during the week of the 14th.
     
  7. Oct 14, 2002 #67 of 299
    jrbdmb

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    It looks like the spotbeams on E*8 have been activated as of 10/14. Here in Southern NJ I have reading of ~120 on trans. 2 and 10, ~95 on 8, and no signal on 4 and 6. This doesn't quite line up with what I expected based on Bryan's spot beam maps, so either Echostar is still in transition mode for these or they've made additional changes to their E*8 spotbeam "strategy".
     
  8. Oct 14, 2002 #68 of 299
    Mike123abc

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    If they do the E7 strategy with E8 they will have transponders 1-21 on E8 (with 2,4,6,8,10 being spots) and 22-32 left on E5. I believe they only have the capacity for 16 CONUS transponders being double powered on E8. This will leave E5 with 8 transponders which it can double power.

    When they did E7 they did not light up a transponder in a spot until they were ready to put channels on it. So, if they turned on T2 in the NE spot and filled it up, rest will remain dark until they are ready to uplink to them.
     
  9. Oct 14, 2002 #69 of 299
    JohnH

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    Hey Nashville, what Tp are your locals on Now?

    Tp 2 currently has Conus stuff on it. Maybe double powered.

    Tp 10 is Philadelphia. May be on a spot. Have not checked to see what the signal charistics are here, yet.

    Have not found Colorado Springs. Maybe turned on any time. They are showing up on TitanTV.com
     
  10. Oct 14, 2002 #70 of 299
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    They have removed the names of the satellites from the signal strength screen.

    It now just says "EchoStar 110W" on each transponder.

    Transponder 2 doesn't seem much different (78 signal strength), but 4 and 6 are now off out here.
     
  11. Oct 14, 2002 #71 of 299
    JohnH

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    Nashville and Colorado Springs are the only ones which do not appear to be on Conus anymore.
     
  12. Oct 14, 2002 #72 of 299
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    Mike123abc, I don't think that Dish leaving transponders 1-21 on E*7 at 119W is a strategy. It probably has to do with the fact that that's all the transponders they have at 119W. :)

    I would really like to know what Dish plans for 110W. But the fact is that with the locals (non Dishnets) moving to Spots on E*8, what is left (that being basic cable/premium cable/ppv/spanish) Dish will only use up 15 Conus transponders. Leaving them with one empty transponder at E*8 in double-power mode, and E*5 unused with 8 possible transponders free.
     
  13. Oct 14, 2002 #73 of 299
    Mike123abc

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    Well the reason it works out to 21 transponders is that there are 32 CONUS transponders on E7, but they run 16 instead of 32 so they can use double power on the 16. Then they use 5 transponder frequencies in the spot beams. 16+5 = 21. This also happens to be the licenses that they have at 119. I would speculate that this is the reason they designed E7 to have 5 spot freqencies because it just works nice with the 16 CONUS double power ones. E8 is essentially the same satellite as E7 (just has the spots pointed to different areas of the country and using even instead of odd transponders in the spots).



    This is just the sort of satellite system I can see being designed by a marketing committee. At least they changed E8 at the last minute so that it could work with E7 in the same orbital slot in case they decided to in the future (provided they come up with a third uplink facility, hmm maybe that PanAmSat buy will not be so bad with 5 new uplink centers...)
     
  14. Oct 14, 2002 #74 of 299
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    It is rather obivious that TPs 4 & 6 have been turned off pending spotbeam activation.

    jrbdmb, when E-7 was activated it took weeks before all the spots were turned on. When all is said and done you should get a strong signal on 2,4,6,10.

    BTW is anyone receiving a signal on TPs 4 & 6?
     
  15. Oct 14, 2002 #75 of 299
    hockeynut

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    Any idea what transponder on E8 will be used for NHL Center Ice?


    Antonio
     
  16. Oct 14, 2002 #76 of 299
    btbrossard

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    In the Milwaukee (WI) area, I am getting a signal off of transponder 6, however no signal off of 4.

    The signal strength is only at 100. The spot beams from 119 are all at 125.

    In the "point dish/signal" menu, when I click on 110 transponder 6, the text goes from "transponder" to "spot beam." This is the only transponder from 110 to do this so far.
     
  17. Oct 14, 2002 #77 of 299
    ElJefe

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    NHL Center Ice channels 540 to 547 are now coming from transponder 24.
     
  18. Oct 14, 2002 #78 of 299
    JohnH

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    Apparently, you can forget about the comment which indicated Nashville is on Spotbeam. It appears DISH Network is transmitting misleading IDs on Tp 15. However it would appear as though Albuquergue has to be on a spotbeam if the aforementioned is correct.
     
  19. Oct 14, 2002 #79 of 299
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    Hi all...

    Spot beams are strange on 110° Monday, 14....

    104 signal (best I've ever seen from any TP EVER!) tp 6.
    0 signal on tp 4

    This is in Cincinnati

    See ya
    Tony
     
  20. Oct 14, 2002 #80 of 299
    J. Allen Head

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    Transponders 4 & 6 have either went to spot beams or are in the process because my signal on those transponders yesterday was in the mid 80's and today there 0
     
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