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Official: HR34 pricing as of 2/9/2012

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Feb 9, 2012.

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  1. Feb 21, 2012 #601 of 1281
    chrisexv6

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    Question - if I already have a full ethernet network for my DVRs, will they convert ALL of them to DECA? Or just setup DECA so the HR34 will work? Should I "hide" the ethernet connections that I currently have so Ill get a more fully supported DECA network? (i.e. DECA adapters at each box, vs a DECA ethernet adapter for the whole network....or vice versa)
     
  2. Feb 21, 2012 #602 of 1281
    Jerry_K

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    The 34 is no better or no worse than the HR24-500. Each has about five glitches a day. Neither comes close to the robustness I had with SD DirecTiVo.
     
  3. Feb 21, 2012 #603 of 1281
    rahlquist

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    Hmm and how would you compare them to say a HR2x prior to HR24? Since Ive never owned a HR24 would like a point of reference.
     
  4. Feb 21, 2012 #604 of 1281
    trh

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    Five glitches a day on a 24??? I don't think I had five glitches total in the last year with 5 DVRs and one receiver. I'd say there is something wrong with your setup or that 24.
     
  5. Feb 21, 2012 #605 of 1281
    dsw2112

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    I've had every DVR model except the HR20 and HR34. Over that span of time I haven't witnessed anything like that myself.

    With my 4 current DVR's (including an HR24-500 I've had since release) I would be hard-pressed to find five glitches in a year as well. Although, I suppose the definition of "glitch" might lead to a better understanding of the problems the other poster is having.
     
  6. Feb 21, 2012 #606 of 1281
    fikuserectus

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    5 glitches a day?!?! I have never experienced anything like that on my HR24. Your HR24 is defective, or something is wrong with your setup. Are you a Tivo fanboy?
     
  7. Feb 21, 2012 #607 of 1281
    chrisexv6

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    Really need a definition of "glitch".

    Missed recordings? Havent had one of those in ages (and the last one I did have was NOT the DVRs fault....bad guide data)

    Occasional pixelization? Sure. Maybe for a second or two, maybe once a month (and usually on my HR21 which Ive MRV-named "POS" for good reason). My HR20s are rock solid stable.

    These D* boxes (even the "POS") are FAR and AWAY better than the alternatives around here (Uverse and Cablevision). They are one of the big reasons I stick with D* year in and year out. I had a SD DirecTivo forever ago........yes it was nice and no it had no quirks, but after watching my HR20s run all these years, I have to say they are 99% as stable as that DirecTivo was, and they have a whole lot more features and with the HD gui look a lot better too. On top of that, DirecTV seems a LOT more supportive about providing fixes, NOT deprecating models, etc.
     
  8. Feb 21, 2012 #608 of 1281
    dwcolvin

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    They'll convert everything to DECA, and that will keep all the box to box communication off your Ethernet. It's a Good Thing. :)
     
  9. Feb 21, 2012 #609 of 1281
    dwcolvin

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    Working fine for me. Frequent MRV, scheduled and impromptu recordings.
     
  10. Feb 21, 2012 #610 of 1281
    markrogo

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    My HR24s have the occasional 1 second pixelation or audio hiccup. But 5 glitches per day? Uh, no. They record everything they are asked to.

    Yesterday, we had a recording that was being very ornery with regard to trick play. I mention this because it was the first time I can recall that happening period.

    We too use MRV all the time. Periodically, it requires a second "ask" of another box, but I wouldn't say that periodically = often. It's fairly rare.

    Oh, I should add our HR34 is in. Installed today with a new SWM 16 and new LNB. He even "peaked" the dish because the HR34 was a bit picky about the system test (although it read identical to the HR24 on signal strength). DirecTV's new install method is excellent with the handhelds, the satellite pings of the boxes, etc. The whole experience was a new level of professionalism.
     
  11. Feb 21, 2012 #611 of 1281
    chrisexv6

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    Thats the thing, my ethernet powered HR2Xs work so well.....I cant see it being any better :) but DECA has been around long enough I figure its pretty reliable by now
     
  12. Feb 22, 2012 #612 of 1281
    inkahauts

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    What five glitches do you have a day on your hr24? I have that, and hr20s and hr21s and I don't have any glitches on any, and I have not seen anyone else say the hr24 has five glitches a day, so I have to bite and ask what your glitches are? And my TiVo wasn't as robust as my DirecTV units either...

    With that said, I think there is no question the hr34 has some growing to do, because it's definitely not running as well as their other units based n all the issues I see people reporting, and a few bugs I have seen myself already.
     
  13. Feb 22, 2012 #613 of 1281
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    Well I called a special number with a custom PIN to get special pricing and they offered me initially $199 plus $99 for install.

    I said that wasn't good enough so they came back with $199 and I would need a CCK. The guy also said I can't use Whole Home DVR with my HR20 and HR22 and the HR34 I'd be getting. Whole Home DVR would only work with receivers, not DVRs.

    I pointed out, HR34 requires Whole Home DVR but if I can't network with my DVR or DVRs, then there's no point in my getting HR34 and Whole Home DVR service in the first place.

    I hung up and then emailed and they said I would be able to network with my DVRs but that I still need the CCK.

    They didn't discuss additional fees per month or whether my installation would include installing SWiM and whatever was needed for Whole Home DVR/MRV. In fact, in the email they said I would need CCK since I do not have SWiM so I guess SWiM installation is NOT included.

    I am going to pass on this offer. If I'm going to throw a couple of hundred dollars, I might as well see what the Ceton DVR is going to cost. At least with that or Tivo with Lifetime, whatever I spend, I'd be able to recoup some costs back by re-selling later.

    I would definitely be saving several hundred dollars over the first 12 months and maybe even pay less after the first year on combined TV and Internet over what I'm paying now.

    Dish also is offering a savings of several hundred dollars over 2 years with only $99 up front for 2 HD DVRs from them as well.

    It must be the fact that I've never subscribed to Sunday Ticket, even though I've always subscribed to one or two premiums during my 10-years with D*.
     
  14. Feb 22, 2012 #614 of 1281
    chrisexv6

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    I dont quite understand the (usually incorrect) assumption about a customer requiring the CCK. I have a tech here right now installing my HR34 and he did that instead of connecting a DECA adapter to my router that was 10 feet away from the 16 port SWiM. It only hurts DirecTV to give me equipment that I dont need, and then have me complain about it if for some reason it didnt initialize correct, get a wireless signal, etc.

    I saw he had a router going where the '34 was and asked why....then pointed him to the basement where my router is right near the SWiM.

    They are still using the 4 wires that come in from my dish...I suppose I could have argued it should be connected right to the back of the dish and only use 1 of the 4 wires coming into my house, but I dont think its that big of a deal. I suppose if it ever came down to it they could fix it to be that way.
     
  15. Feb 22, 2012 #615 of 1281
    Scott Kocourek

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    If you have a SWiM-16 you must use all four wires from the dish, it will not work with one wire.
     
  16. Feb 22, 2012 #616 of 1281
    chrisexv6

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    Agreed, but would they hang the SWiM off the back of the dish to prevent having 4 wires coming into the house? It doesnt bother me either way.

    What DOES bother me is that Im not seeing any of my other DVRs on the whole home network right now. And since its now DECA my troubleshooting skills are pretty nill!!
     
  17. Feb 22, 2012 #617 of 1281
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    Hmmm. Do your other three DVRs all have DECA adapters on them? It seems to me they should all be able to see each other now if that's the case.

    If so, you really should just need to plug your HR34 into your main router directly via ethernet. It will forward all traffic to the local DECA network, assuming the cabling is all correct for that. The SWiM-16 bridges DECA between the two 8-port halves.

    Also, if you've got Whole Home on the account I'm a little surprised the installer left your house while MRV still didn't work.

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  18. Feb 22, 2012 #618 of 1281
    Jerry_K

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    Glitches to me on the HR24 are:

    Recording second showings of programs after the first recorded showing
    Having to hit Retry up to 24 times (the record) to get a program from the HR34 to play.
    Showing only half a screen when trying double play.
    Audio drops out on SD program in double play.
    Audio does not play on some recorded programs on first try.
    Misses shows in Series List with no record of why.
    Misses the first part of almost all recorded programs. (not the rewind problem just not there at all)

    HR34 has same problem with not recording the first part of a show.
    HR34 has same problem of recording many instances of the same program
    HR34 has same problem missing shows

    HR34 does not have any of the screen cutoff or audio problems on SD programs.
     
  19. Feb 22, 2012 #619 of 1281
    chrisexv6

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    Yeah, Im kicking myself for not walking thru every box to make sure they could see each other. To his credit, it wouldnt have worked without me fixing router settings (I had service ports for each DVR forwarded to an IP address for each DVR but when he put them back on the network he made them all DHCP again so the ports werent forwarding to the correct spots)

    The HR20-700 can see the HR34 and its play list. The HR34 cannot see the HR20 or its playlist. The HR20-100 wont get on the network at all (Im assuming because he didnt use the special parts to get it to work, Ill beat on DirecTV later about that)
     
  20. Feb 22, 2012 #620 of 1281
    sigma1914

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    Never had that.
    That's a 34 issue.
    I use DP everyday and never have that.
    Can't comment, don't watch SD.
    Never seen these.




    I think you have something wrong with your setup or something.
     
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