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On which channels do you have audio dropouts?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by veryoldschool, Aug 2, 2010.

  1. Aug 3, 2010 #81 of 929
    Die Hard

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    206 ESPNHD
    209 ESPN2HD
    229 HGTVHD
    242 USAHD
    245 TNTHD

    Locals:2- FOX

    I average about 3 to 4 audio dropouts per hour.

    My system:
    H20/600 - via HDMI directly to a Samsung LCD LN-52351w TV. No AVR connected and can still hear drops thru TV speakers.

    H21/100 - via HDMI to a Panasonic Plasma TH42PX50 TV, with an optical connection to a Sony AVR STR-DE845. The panel displays/changes when the Dolby signal changes. Most audio drops I hear, some I just see based on the display.

    H23/600 - via HDMI to a Denon AVR 1610 then on via HDMI to a Panasonic Plasma TCP-50S1. Nothing on the display changes, I just hear the audio drops.
     
  2. Aug 3, 2010 #82 of 929
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    Mine is an Onkyo HT-S590 but it doesn't matter, I still get them through the tv speakers.

    I also forgot to add I at times get dropouts on my local OTA station run through the HR20-100. If I switch over to just the antenna and not go through the HR20, they aren't there.
     
  3. Aug 3, 2010 #83 of 929
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    I dont suffer from any audio dropouts ever that I'm aware of and I watch more than my share of Directv for sure.

    Is it because I don't use a surround sound system and get audio directly from the TV speakers? I have a HR21-100 and a H21-100.

    From reading the thread it seems to me FOOD NET was one of the worst offenders, so just out of curiosity I listened closely for 90 minutes or so last night and didn't get a single audio dropout.
     
  4. Aug 3, 2010 #84 of 929
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    I think you are just very lucky. Say a little prayer of thanks tonight. :D

    I get them with both the surround sound and through the tv speakers.
     
  5. Aug 3, 2010 #85 of 929
    veryoldschool

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    If you have Dolby turned off, and use your TV speakers, the dropouts may be so short that you don't hear them.
     
  6. Aug 3, 2010 #86 of 929
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    I notice the audio dropouts the most on USA and Syfy. Tonight, watching the Law and Order: Criminal Intent that was recorded 7/6, 10:00 pm from USAHD 242. There were several drop outs. Ran diagnostic report 20100803-3089 within a minute after hearing one of the dropouts.
     
  7. Aug 3, 2010 #87 of 929
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    Yes I have Dolby turned off and use the TV speakers. Cant say that Ive ever consciously listened for the dropouts, but since I saw this thread yesterday evening I have started listening closely for them and I'm just not hearing them at all. I guess I'm fortunate to not be an audiophile. I only use surround sound when watching DVD's/Blu Ray's.
     
  8. Aug 3, 2010 #88 of 929
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    CNN HD
    SYFY HD
    USA HD
    CNe HD
    Theres so many sometimes its hard to list them all this is using 3 HR20-100's and 1 HR21-100 happens on the same channels on all of these channels and others.
     
  9. Aug 3, 2010 #89 of 929
    veryoldschool

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    The key here is the degree of the corrupted or missing audio bits.
    With Dolby off you may not hear a dropout unless it is much longer. Some have turned Dolby off and can still hear then but they are shorter than with Dolby on.
    Then with the different Audio Video Receivers, some will trigger on the shortest break in the Dolby encoding and others seem to trigger on longer breaks of it and pass through the short ones.
    Next comes how fast the Audio Video Receiver cycles through losing and regaining the Dolby decoding. Some do this in moments, while others can take seconds to cycle.
     
  10. Aug 3, 2010 #90 of 929
    veryoldschool

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    What AVR are you using, since by now it's fairly well known that it isn't which DirecTV receiver you're using.
     
  11. Aug 3, 2010 #91 of 929
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    SyFy, TNT, USA, LOCAL CW (OK absolute worst but similar off air), The Starz package of channels, HBO, etc. It's present with most all the HD channels and has been a constant nuisance starting just about a year back (more like 10 or 11 months I think). First noticed it when I began CE testing. Its been resident this current NR cycle.

    OK I'm thinking the 0x{0||4}35* and prior firmware didn't have this issue. (I started log notations with 0x036a 10/23/09)

    OH AVR is insignificant as it happens on SONY, TOSHIBA, SAMSUNG, and SHARP TVs in reduced form. AVRs however... Bose 321-GS, Yamaha(YSP-1000, RX-V2600, RX-V3800, RX-Z11) The AVRs take a bit to refresh as the signal drop pulls them out of DD5.1 to PCM and then back. (at least that is what the front panel indicators show on all of these AVRs)

    Don "should have logged from day 1" Bolton
     
  12. Aug 3, 2010 #92 of 929
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    Animal Plant was full of them tonight.
     
  13. Aug 3, 2010 #93 of 929
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    Never use and AVR only using my TV speakers and using HDMI.
     
  14. Aug 3, 2010 #94 of 929
    Taltizer

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    MSNBC HD
    Foxnews HD
    SpikeTV HD
    History HD
    Planet Green HD
    HBO E HD
    Quiet a few Premiums

    Just a few other ones.You nees to start a thread for Video and Audio Breakups that would include.

    SpikeTV HD and USA HD and MSNBC HD and many others.
     
  15. Aug 3, 2010 #95 of 929
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    TNT HD
    Speed HD
    Fox HD
    SyFy HD
    Discovery HD
    A&E HD
    Discovery HD
    USA HD
    History HD
    (That's all I can think of right now)


    Local Hampton Roads Virginia
    NBC HD
    Fox HD


    HR20-700 using Dolby Digital out via optical cable to an Onkyo AVR


    Also I did not have any of these audio drop outs last year around this time. It started happening around November or so for me (give or take a couple of months). If it wasn't a software update then what was it that changed around that time? Did Directv get new equipment or start doing things differently with the signal? Was MPEG4 introduced around that time?
     
  16. Aug 3, 2010 #96 of 929
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    In this case you might try turning off Dolby in the receivers and just sending PCM to the TV. It might now stop all of them but they might not be as noticeable.
     
  17. Aug 3, 2010 #97 of 929
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    I don't have any info on what was changed, but would guess the firmware in the encoders was changed to remove the brripps that we used to have. Now the encoders seem to be blanking the same problem.
     
  18. Aug 3, 2010 #98 of 929
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    I had to laugh the other day. I was watching speed channel, and using my Hauppauge HDPVR to watch it live. I had both the dropouts from DirecTv, and about two brrrrrrips from the mpeg4 encoder in the hauppauge. Must be something about mpeg4 that makes keeping video and audio sync really difficult.
     
  19. Aug 4, 2010 #99 of 929
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    Dolby has never been turned on on any of my recievers Dolby is always OFF This has always been a Directv MPEG4 Encoding issue and they never have seemed to want to or try to fix it.Its been this way Since D10 back in 07 and just gets worse as the years go on.
     
  20. Aug 4, 2010 #100 of 929
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    The CW5HD Ch.5 Roanoke/Lynchburg Va. DMA this station has always had audio dropouts on SD programming only but is fine during HD Programming.It has had audio dropouts every 2 mins for over a year when Local HD's were added on July,29,2009.Dont expect for this to ever be fixed.
     

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