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  1. Aug 31, 2020 #21 of 119
    Mark Holtz

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    The traditional way of how entertainment is delivered is dying. It is getting harder and harder to justify the high traditional model costs. For over a decade, I found that the cost/benefit ration of DirecTV to be completely out of whack.
     
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    We have a spare FireTV Stick 4k that we take with us when we travel. We do several week long vacations every year. It's great to be able to just plug in the FireTV Stick 4k and have our same entertainment that we have at home wherever we are.
     
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    Because of the lack of any new live programming because of Coronavirus, it has been driven home to me that having any live streaming service isn’t worth it at any price. I’m finding that almost all I’m watching is coming from other than live streaming services.

    I’ve read some articles showing ‘new’ stuff coming to broadcast and cable channels between now and October and have found so few of those to be of any interest at all. Inane game shows, contests of specious value and bogus ‘reality’ crap for the most part.

    When my AT&T TV subscription gets cancelled next year there is a much better than even chance I won’t sub to a different live streaming service.
     
  4. Aug 31, 2020 #24 of 119
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    Your rationale was entirely the same reason I left the service. I was never unhappy with D*, and could have continued with it if I really wanted to. But I'm happy with what I have now and saving a little coin in my pocket. YTTV has its faults, but I knew what I was getting into. Everyone is a YMMV situation when losing potential channels in the move to streaming, but I only lost one that really mattered to me. And I still have a workaround to access it if I need it.

    Welcome to the all streaming life. It's really not so bad. ;)
     
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  5. Aug 31, 2020 #25 of 119
    James Long

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    It will take a while for the streamers to get up to the full price of the MVPDs. Except AT&T and Tvision which seem to have taken the full price now approach.

    As long as people do not expect every channel they got via DIRECTV on a single streaming platform for a lot less money they should not be disappointed. The people who will have more trouble changing are those who use multiple receivers/DVRs at the same time or watch channels not available on a streamer.

    Just as it was when comparing MVPDs with different channel lineups it works out to be a personal choice with no one size fits all answer. Satellite is not the best for everyone - streaming is not the best for everyone - regardless of what their respective marketing departments may say.
     
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    But it does matter if those channels are never watched. They are still there for the price to quantity ratio.

    To me a luxury car is the prime example here.. My wifes RR Velar comes with a crapload of options and features she will never use.. but that didnt matter.. But I dont expect a Highlander to have the same features for 40k less and compete Its the same here. You are paying for that channel count with Directv.. find the options you like in something cheaper then more power to you.. Just dont think they compare
     
  7. Aug 31, 2020 #27 of 119
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    Well, yeah, you are paying for that channel count even it you never watch most of them. And that’s exactly the point! Why the heck do we keep insisting on paying high prices for something we aren’t going to use? That’s why I have a Nissan Rogue Hybrid base model, it has everything I want and will use and little of what I don’t care about. And I paid under $24K brand new.

    So I carry that on to my TV. Why do I want to pay for a gazillion channels when I only watch about 10-15 of them? In my case, the answer is - I don’t! Same reason I didn’t buy a more upscale luxury vehicle.
     
  8. Aug 31, 2020 #28 of 119
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    Then my guess is she picked out her RR based on comfort, utility and looks. The other stuff she's not using is just fluff to her. So, you/she had to pay extra for stuff you don't use to get that comfort and look.

    The actual analogy to TV is this: Comfort is the UI, and the looks is the picture quality. The extra channels are the fluff. YTTV meets both the comfort and looks bar for us. We wouldn't care if the service was called 'Yugo', btw :D.

    For the record, I drive a new Volvo S90 because we like the comfort, safety and looks. And I know we had to pay extra for those (could have gotten an electric scooter, I suppose). I use many of it's 'gadgets', btw, but then I'm a gadget guy. ;) If I could dump some of the 'gadgets' I don't use on the car to lower the price, I would. We saw it as value proposition for us and purchased that model anyway.

    I was able to do that with our TV service, however, without lowing comfort or looks beyond our needs and wants.
     
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    lol You had the point until your last sentence..
     
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    Because while yes people are shifting there TV patterns.. The vast majority still want that fluff.. And I am fairly certain ATT knew this also when they launched ATT TV Comcast/Directv/Altice/Verizon/Spectrum etc will continue to be fluffy for the foreseeable future
     
  11. Aug 31, 2020 #31 of 119
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    I agree.

    There are things I do miss about D* and others I can easily do without or are no longer acceptable at the price we were paying. We each need to find our own "best fit" but with the understanding that simply expecting the same thing for less money is never going to be the case and that the choices streaming provides is what cutting the cord is all about, not just a lower price point.

    More times than not, when I see a post about their linear streaming service, it's about what they don't have vs. what they do and even though they made the conscious decision to make the switch, they either clearly didn't do the work up front to make sure it would give them what they wanted or are just used to leaping before they look and bitching about it afterwards. Heaven forbid a vMVPD does something they hated about cable or satellite such as increase prices to try to break even or turn a small profit or doesn't offer 4K, 5.1, etc. It really gets entertaining when an OTT provider has to block content such as a movie, or something like Rudolph or Frosty during the holidays because they don't own the streaming rights. You would think the world was ending. Again, a lack of understanding on how all this works.

    And when you even suggest that maybe they should reconsider going back to cable or satellite if it's a better fit................................OMG! They would just rather continue to assert that because it's Google or Disney, that they can afford to operate at a loss to attract even more customers or that they can simply snap their fingers and provide unlimited streams, 4K, and all the other things they miss about cable or satellite without it costing them a thing.
     
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    Yea - I suppose you mean the 'looks' part. I addressed that in my OP. That was certainly part of my decision making during our look at different services.

    For what we watch from our locals and networks, the difference is not that important to us. We use our longtime (since DVD times) Netflix and Prime subscriptions for Dolby and HDR viewing (LG OLED). Our TV does a very respectful job of up-scaling, btw. Unless the Bruins or Patriots are playing, evenings for us are spent watching high quality video in our family room mostly from sources other than YTTV. The remainder is spent watching stuff we've recorded using YTTV.

    During the day it's mostly my wife catching up on 'her' shows, and for her as long it's 'HD' she claims to not be able to see the difference.
     
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    You mean the declining majority, right? :)

    As to how fluffy cable/sat will be going forward, who the heck knows? I suspect we’ll see more of the ‘light’ sub levels from them, similar to Dish’s Flex pack. And meanwhile, back at the ranch the content providers are coming up with their own ways to monetize their stuff beyond the cable/sat world. Things like HBO Max, Peacock, CBS:All Access and who knows what other offerings?
     
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    Yeah, once you thoroughly immerse yourself in SVODs the need for live TV becomes less and less, and then you're just gonna stop watching live TV. I can't believe how long this is taking you. Mainly because you seem to have known you'd give up live TV at some point. It is the rational thing to do.

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  15. Aug 31, 2020 #35 of 119
    James Long

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    Individual decisions should not be based on the vast majority. We are not lemmings that must follow the crowd off the cliff. If a consumer can find a less fluffy service that meets their needs (their needs, not someone else's needs) they should subscribe to that service.

    It seems that people are walking in to this with their eyes wide open ... understanding that by cutting a lot of fluff they may lose some content that they might watch. But they are also cutting their bill. It is up to the individual (not the herd) whether the content they may lose is worth paying the fluffy rate to receive.
     
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    I was gonna bring up the luxury car thing and...you beat me to it. Damn. Yeah, I've read thru this thread and I'll go the luxury route, keep D*. Always considered it a luxury, no reason to change that opinion. I get folks wanting to save money but the one luxury I have? I'm gonna keep it.

    Aww, I thought the "RR Velar" was a "Rolls Royce". I was deeply impressed...nothing against the Range Rover. All this made me do what I always do when looking at cars, check the front legroom. In both the Velar and the Rolls. I wound not be comfortable in either car. Size discrimination sucks.

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    Yeah, I didn’t think it through so well when I signed up for AT&T TV. :(. So I’m stuck until April next year when cancelling makes at least some sense. Started to cancel now and just eat the ETF and chalk it up to experience.
     
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    @Rich - You're post made we wonder if I should start a thread here titled 'What happens if I put a 1TB SSD in my Tablo?'

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    It's not so much that I think I'm being 'cheap', it's much more like I'm annoyed at feeling like I'm being ripped off after two price increases in two months. (And I get I could likely call them for another 'promo', but that second increase woke me up.)
     
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    I'm gonna take a guess...you're not 6'4 or taller. I had a 1978 Honda Accord that had the same legroom as a Lincoln Towncar of the same year, IIRC. 44 inches. Now I have an Acadia, a large SUV with plenty of room except for the driver's legs. 41 inches. If it had 44 inches I'd keep the Acadia till the wheels fell off, I like it that much. I'm looking at GMC Yukons at the moment.

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