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one of two Hoppers won't update

Discussion in 'Hopper System Support Forum' started by TxDave, Mar 26, 2012.

  1. patmurphey

    patmurphey Godfather

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    Where did you find an official users guide? The only one I've seen is posted on Satelliteguys and Scott clearly said it is unofficial and contains many errors.
     
  2. 356B

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    http://www.satelliteguys.us/hopper-zone/280291-hopper-manual.html

    Check the date...it was not discredited until nearly a month later. Interestingly it speaks more to a 922 then a Hopper. It is ridiculous in some ways compared to reality....hence your criticism. Never the less my installers found it helpful since they had nothing to go by with the exception of the literature featured with the units, which by the way was limited...their words, not mine.
    Sorry for any confusion....:grin: time does march on....:rolleyes:
    Happy Memorial Day!!pride
     
  3. James Long

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  4. dunkonu23

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    I'm starting to really dislike the 1am update thing. I know the work arounds, but my wife's patience is wearing thin. What's the big deal about not letting users choose the update time?

    Scott
     
  5. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Bugs. Only full reboot can do cleaning them.
     
  6. dunkonu23

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    Yeah, I know. Just why must it happen when they have it scheduled? For a machine to have so many great features then to blow it by not allowing folks to schedule their update time is not only short sighted, it's stupid.

    Scott
     
  7. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Perhaps 99.999% of users sleep around that time ?
     
  8. James Long

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    Probably not. The major networks have programming that runs past 1am for their late night programming. 3am when programming is no more than mostly infomercials is closer to the "99.999%". It certainly has less viewers than 1am when new programming is still airing.
     
  9. dunkonu23

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    Ever work from 3pm to 11pm? How about you just want to watch late night TV, be a bit behind, step out for a moment, then come back only to lose your spot because the Hopper has rebooted.. what you lost was the last five minutes of F1 qualifying. When the receiver has restored you've missed seeing your team get the pole.

    This is not about a pissing match, it's about a user-friendly feature that can be set in advance so a user doesn't miss whatever they're watching. It can't be that difficult to do. Maybe when the software is more stable, we'll see it but until then, Dish is charging full price for what is essentially a system "in progress". I knew that when I got in, but it's getting hard to explain to my wife, now.

    Scott
     
  10. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    I'm indifferent to the time, just try to propose their possible reason.
    As to my point of the whole idea:initially it was a runt about sloppy coding what lead to memory leakage and locking resources, starting from first Linux model - 721; at least they made reboot time adjustable - any time of day and night.
    Strange, in the last model - XiP813's FW it's locked to 1am. Perhaps something new [buggy] feature like PTA required it ?
     
  11. James Long

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    And that is the problem ... I set my 622 for 4:05am because I occasionally was up until after 3am. Losing that feature is not cool.

    Unlikely. The reboot CAN be skipped without exposing any bugs (it will try again each hour, unlike the 622 series). If one has an active recording at 1am the reboot will wait. And PTA still gets it's instructions even if the reboot is skipped.
     
  12. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    The 1am time is look suspiciously close to PTA ending ...
    Perhaps some house choir with PTA recordings require reboot ? Moving records from PTA to user space ?
     
  13. James Long

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    Do I need to say it again?
    Skipping the 1am and 2am updates does not affect PTA nor AutoHOP.
     
  14. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Because it will happen next hour ?
     
  15. James Long

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    AutoHOP markings show up around 1am. I've watched programs from the evening before WITH AutoHOP enabled and without the reboot. The reboot is not needed to make AutoHOP work ... and PTA worked when the reboot time was still at a default 3am.

    I've also stayed up all night and skipped the reboot each hour until it stopped asking. The nightly reboot isn't a bad idea ... but it does NOT need to be at 1am. Giving the user the option of picking the time would work.
     
  16. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Should be something reasonable, if it disabled using 922 code base.
     

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