onkyo TX-SR805 with HR21

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  1. Feb 5, 2008 #1 of 105
    waynebtx

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    I getting ready to order the onkyo TX-SR805 anyone else useing this as there avr. If so any thing i should know about it with the HR21.:D
     
  2. Feb 5, 2008 #2 of 105
    spartanstew

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    Apparently, it doesn't work realy well with HR20/21's.
     
  3. Feb 5, 2008 #3 of 105
    waynebtx

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    If audio drop is only 1 to 2 sec i can live with that. Was surprised my wife is letting me get this she said no to the sling box and its cheaper.:hurah:

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  4. Feb 5, 2008 #4 of 105
    spartanstew

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    Sure, I could live what that too. Some people are getting +8 second drop outs though.

     
  5. Feb 5, 2008 #5 of 105
    waynebtx

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    Now that 8 seconds might be hard to live with.
     
  6. Feb 5, 2008 #6 of 105
    VLaslow

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    As I recall, hasan, has this unit. You might PM him to see if he can help.
     
  7. Feb 5, 2008 #7 of 105
    spartanstew

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    I was set on getting the 805 as well (within the next 2 months). Now, I'm reconsidering.
     
  8. Feb 6, 2008 #8 of 105
    waynebtx

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    Went ahead and order it this morning should be here on the 13th. With the HDA30 and my PS3 the TrueHD aduio was something i really wanted. The audio drops from the HR21 or my HR20 i will work with onkyo on maybe i will get lucky and not get any.:)
     
  9. Feb 6, 2008 #9 of 105
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    I am also in the shopping mode for a new receiver. I was looking at the Sony STR-DA3300ES....It is in the same price range as the Onkyo Wayne ordered. Can anyone enlighten me as the the better one and for what reason. I have studied the specs on both but and they seem very similar except the Onkyo has a little more power to each speaker....I have never heard one of the in person so can anyone throw me a bone on this ? Does one sound better than the other ?
     
  10. Feb 6, 2008 #10 of 105
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    Dont know about the sony but the the onkyo set up in the local CC i was at yesterday with 100 watt 8om speakers and the sound from it was great. Beats the Sony STR-DE697 i have now hands down.:D
     
  11. Feb 6, 2008 #11 of 105
    MartyS

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    Does the Dolby Digital pass through on HDMI on any of these or do you still need optical cables?

    Also, what's the price range?
     
  12. Feb 6, 2008 #12 of 105
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    Yes the DD will pass through over the hdmi on the 805. I give 899 for mine from CC it can be found cheaper at Amazon but have already gotten things from CC and if something goes wrong then i can just drive to the local CC with it vice shipping it back somewhere.
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  13. Feb 6, 2008 #13 of 105
    MartyS

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    THanks... thats a bit out of the price range I want to spend. But everything I look at still requires the optical cables.
     
  14. Feb 7, 2008 #14 of 105
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    Have you looked at the onkyo TX-SR705 or 605. not sure how many hdmi inputs you need. The onkyo TX-SR705 has three and the 605 has two.
     
  15. Feb 7, 2008 #15 of 105
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    I've done some research on the TX-SR805 and found some comments that it runs very hot. There are reports of it shutting down, possibly from overheating. There is a review on c|net, here's the summary:

    "The good: Three HDMI 1.3 inputs; converts analog video sources to HDMI; onboard Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio decoding; THX Neural surround processing; XM- and Sirius-ready; automatic speaker calibration; switches as many as six high-definition video sources; multiroom functionality for second and third zones.

    The bad: Downconverts 1080i component video signals to 720p when outputting over HDMI; HDMI video quality converted from analog sources may not satisfy videophiles; current crop of high-def disc players lack bit-stream output, which is needed to utilize the receiver's onboard Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio decoding.

    The bottom line: The Onkyo TX-SR805 is an all-around excellent AV receiver with plenty of audiophile appeal, but its less-than-ideal video performance may give HDTV aficionados a reason to hold out for higher-end alternatives."

    Interestingly, c|net rates the 605 as an Editor's Choice, but with the same "bad" comments about the video. They rated it 8.0/10, but the average user rating is 6.8 with 53 user opinions.

    I considered this receiver and spent a lot of time looking at it at Circuit City. You can get it on Amazon for $730 with free shipping and no tax. Last week it was $703. I found one locally on craigslist "brand new, still in box" for $750. I offered $600 and he countered at $660. I decided not to buy it. He's since dropped his price to $700.
     
  16. Feb 7, 2008 #16 of 105
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    Looked at the amazon price but the wife got involed too and said we have used CC before for the HDA30 so went that way.
     
  17. Feb 7, 2008 #17 of 105
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    I am still shopping but have read that the Onkyo is THX certified and the Sony is not..I am not sure how much difference it makes...I run my video through my Sony 910 HDMI inputs now but wonder if I am losing any quality in doing so. Do you guys use the HDMI on the reciever instead of going straight to the TV ?

    Rocker, I took your advice and just picked up a Samsung 4661F...I really wanted a 40 inch for the bedroom but with the deal I got on it I will make the 46 work.....picked up a Sony BluRay player too so now I have both HD formats and wont worry as much over which format will prevail......Thanks for suggesting another look for the Sammy......
     
  18. Feb 7, 2008 #18 of 105
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    Iam going to run the HDMI through the 805 to the tv the THX was one of the selling points for me just got the shipping info on my 805 should have it sat or monday have to get a buddy of mine over here at 60lbs setup one armed will be ruff cant lift over 3 to 4lb with right arm. Really looking forward to getting it.:D
     
  19. Feb 7, 2008 #19 of 105
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    While THX appears to be a big selling point on higher-end A/V equipment, there's a lot more to it than just the THX sticker on a receiver. If you are going to use THX optimally, your speakers need to meet the THX specs. Last time I checked, all five speakers in a 5.1 channel setup needed to be identical. THX also specifies specific angles of listening, such as the front speakers placed at a 45 degree angle facing the listener and the side speakers mounted two feet above the listener at a 90 to 110 degree angle. In a 7.1 channel setup the rear surround speakers should be mounted side-by-side on the back wall unless it's a Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD setup in which case they should be separated at a 60 degree angle to the listener. The THX spec also calls for four or two subwoofers mounted across from each other on opposing walls. If you have only two subs they need to go on the side walls. If you only have one sub you can place it in the middle of the front wall.

    There are also five THX categories, Select, Select2, Ultra, Ultra2, and Ultra2 Plus. These define the room size and each category is for a specific room size. THX also recommends a 1080p HDTV that is calibrated using the THX Optimizer on THX-certified DVDs.

    Because THX-certified DVDs are mixed for these specs, if your speakers are not identical or in the recommended position, there is really no point in using THX. Also, it will only be good for THX-certified DVDs, not for your HR2x, because there is no THX encoding in a DirecTV broadcast, since DirecTV only broadcasts in Dolby 5.1. THX is designed mostly for a dedicated home theater room, not a living room or family room where there are always compromises in speaker placement, not to mention the WAF.

    I have a Yamaha A/V Receiver that is THX Select certified. If I play a THX-certified DVD using one of the THX settings on my receiver, the surround sound is more predominant than on a non-THX setting. The room is the appropriate size for Select, but is rectangular, not square and is open to the breakfast nook behind it, and the side speakers are mounted about a foot higher than recommended and while they are not identical to the LFR speakers, they are made by the same manufacturer and one model line down from the LFR speakers. If THX certification was the only significant difference between two A/V receivers and the THX-certified receiver cost more, I wouldn't pay the extra money.
     
  20. Feb 7, 2008 #20 of 105
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    WoW . At least i have all my speaker matched. so i will see when the 805 gets here.
     

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