ORBY TV

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  1. Jan 24, 2019 #1 of 118
    icr2002

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    Has anyone heard of this new sat tv service called ORBY tv. Looks real good. No lease fees u buy the equipment up front and have to pay for install. THey have a dvr option too. And the monthly fee includes all charges like taxs. any comments??? They have 2 packs $40 and $50 and offer starz with encore for only $9 a month extra
     
  2. Jan 25, 2019 #2 of 118
    James Long

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    Interesting. I was expecting a "stream free TV" type service (possibly with illegally obtained content) but it is a satellite service transmitting from 117W on two transponders.

    Orby TV on Eutelsat 117 West A at 116.8°W - LyngSat

    The receivers are available at Best Buy - I assume they vetted the company before allowing them in their inventory.
    Installations are contracted through MasTec (also a contract installer of DIRECTV systems).
     
  3. Jan 25, 2019 #3 of 118
    P Smith

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    Interesting … Are they in UHD ? Using HEVC/H.265 compression …
    And Nagravision encrypted ? Similar to what dish is using...
     
  4. Jan 25, 2019 #4 of 118
    KyL416

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    Nope, it's not even HD, it's only in SD. They're just using HEVC with aac audio so they can carry all those channels with only two transponders. So if you're someone who cares more about getting the best picture and surround sound, this service clearly isn't for you.

    Looking at their lineup, they currently only have deals with Viacom, Turner, A&E Networks, AMC Networks and Discovery, along with Starz and Epix for premiums and C-SPAN to meet their small P/I quota. The big ones missing are the channels also owned by the big 4: Disney/ABC, NBCU, Fox and CBS.
     
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  5. Jan 25, 2019 #5 of 118
    P Smith

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    Thanks, good analysis :thumbsup:
     
  6. Jan 25, 2019 #6 of 118
    scooper

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    It's not only going to be SD only, it's going to be poor SD (not even up to Dish and probably not up to DirectTV SD).
    There are only so many bits you can use, even with the best codecs.
     
  7. Jan 25, 2019 #7 of 118
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    It sound like a great deal 30 years ago.
     
  8. Jan 25, 2019 #8 of 118
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    From the reports I'm seeing other places from a few folks that have subscribed, Orby offers a mixture of HD and SD channels, and apparently the PQ is better than they expected. They're using FTA dishes and self installed receivers though, so I don't know how well the $150 professional installation works out.
     
  9. Jan 26, 2019 #9 of 118
    AngryManMLS

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    Even ten years ago way before cord cutting became a huge thing Orby TV could of had a good chance of building itself due to not having all the sports channels some people have no interest in. But now I just can't see Orby TV really making it due to all the over the top services that allows people to have more choice over what they are paying for. Not to mention for some people they have cable/sat because that's the only way they can get their local channels. So not having locals available without an antenna could hurt them a bit for some people.
     
  10. Jan 26, 2019 #10 of 118
    slice1900

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    Maybe it could act as a discount option for people in rural areas who can only get satellite, though it doesn't sound like it is all that much cheaper than the cheapest Dish or Directv plan would be.
     
  11. Jan 26, 2019 #11 of 118
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    Hey.
    I own a 10 foot c band satellite. And have c and ku on it. I like the idea of not having to update anything to use it. I'm getting it next month. So I'll let you know how it goes.
    But I think it's going to do better then you think. I think this will be what ends dish network.

    I know about 2 years ago. We have a feed up on c band. That was psk16 and it had 40 stations in HD. In the clear for a year And it was on transponder. And it looked good.

    And for the stations vs the money. It's still about half and much as dish or direct. And in some places with comcast.
     
  12. Jan 26, 2019 #12 of 118
    icr2002

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    Literally 50% of my bill is the fees direct tv charges. Thats why this interests me. To say the cheapest package from dish or dierct tv is just as good is not true. The fees is making them not worth it.
     
  13. Jan 26, 2019 #13 of 118
    James Long

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    Orby's market starts with people willing to pay $250-$350 to purchase and install equipment - then pay $40-$65 per month for the channels. No commitment. I wonder if they have considered the RV market?

    DISH's Flex Pack starts at $37.99 for 50 channels. Orby is $40 for 40 channels. The limit I see is where one can go from the base subscription. $50 for 65 channels with no option to get other basic channels. No Fox News, MSNBC, CNBC or any weather channel. (CNN International and BBC World News are part of the $50 level with CNN in the $40 level.) And yes, "nobody" wants to pay for the sports channels but with Orby nobody has the choice. That further narrows the market.

    One could argue that people can get the missing content over the Internet ... but one can also get the Orby channels over the Internet. What is the benefit of having this service?

    I support satellite TV - I believe it is the best way of delivering the same content to millions of people at the same time. But the service needs content. Is there additional content in Orby's future?
     
  14. Jan 26, 2019 #14 of 118
    James Long

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    The cheapest package from DISH or DIRECTV is better. Be fair when comparing fees. The base level DISH and DIRECTV system ... single tuner not whole home and no sports or locals ... is what one should be comparing.

    What are you getting from DIRECTV? How many tuners? How much storage? How many TV outlets? The prices given for Orby are for a single tuner - optional record capability (at the level of a DISH "Wally" receiver) and one outlet. Could you build an Orby system that would match the capabilities of your DIRECTV system?

    If you want to compare a Mazda vs a Lamborghini and say you would rather pay Mazda prices I'm sure you'll find a lot of people who would rather pay Mazda prices. Those people should not expect a Lamborghini for Mazda pricing.

    ~80 channels on two (TWO!) transponders. Is that HD? It is going to take a lot of cognitive dissonance to say Orby is as good as the same price level on DISH or DIRECTV.
     
  15. Jan 26, 2019 #15 of 118
    NYDutch

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    I'll just add that the Orby DVR $200 receiver has two tuners. And no, I have no intention of switching from Dish... :)
     
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    Rich

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    Good question. Same question I have about every cable replacement service. I don't see a benefit. I just see another fee.

    Rich
     
  17. Jan 26, 2019 #17 of 118
    James Long

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    Good to know ... I missed that on their website.
    "Watch one live show while recording another"
    "(DVR Service is $4/month with a Programming Package and $12/month without)"

    Oops ... add a fee! :)
     
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  18. Jan 26, 2019 #18 of 118
    slice1900

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    It uses FSS band which is a weaker signal, so it needs a 1 meter dish. Kind of hard to stow in an RV.
     
  19. Jan 26, 2019 #19 of 118
    James Long

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    "How big is the dish?
    "It’s about 27 inches across and 18 inches high. The dimensions are similar to many other commonly seen home satellite dishes."

    Orby TV FAQ
     
  20. Jan 26, 2019 #20 of 118
    icr2002

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    You can have up to 4 receivers in your house. So they do more then just 1 receiver per house. No extra lease fee or per box fee. I contacted them on that. The DVR fee is $4 more per month. Which is way cheaper then Direct tv. The DVR will allow recording of off air tv stations also. Hence the $12 fee if u have no package
     

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