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OT: Advice on whether to buy an HDTV now or wait

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Upstream, Nov 26, 2007.

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  1. rynberg

    rynberg Legend

    Oct 6, 2006
    That is not the experience of myself or any other calculations I've seen....you might want to double check your math. And Comcrap doesn't have the sports or quantity (or quality) of HD channels either.

    Regarding your other question, no, SD will not look as good on an HD set as it does on your SD set. I don't think there is a point in buying today, as usually pre-Super Bowl has the best prices.
  2. Kenkong586

    Kenkong586 Legend

    Apr 3, 2007
    I'd wait until around the super bowl as well. Another thing to make sure of is you get the right size TV for your viewing arrangements, especially distance from the set. You don't want to lose the depth that HD provides. Also, as a recent HD set buyer, make sure you look into monitors if you are using a surround system. A monitor as opposed to a television set (speakers, tuner, etc.) will more than likely net you a bigger or better screen for less than a full blown tv costs. With DTV you probably never use your tv tuner anyway and if you have a surround system (like me) you'll probably never use the speakers either. I bought a full tv but got a great deal on it since I knew the guy and I've never even heard the tv speakers, they might not work at all for all I know lol. That's my 2 cents.
  3. bonscott87

    bonscott87 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '07

    Jan 21, 2003
    Why not? When I first got my HDTV the only thing feeding it was SD DirecTivo's and finally got to see my DVDs in true widescreen. No HD at all. 2 months later I got an HD receiver and the only HD channels I could get were HDNet, HBO and a couple hours a week of OTA network TV. That's it.

    Now of course nearly 100% of my viewing is in HD. :D

    It's going to look worse then you current standard def tube TV. Just the nature of the technology and there isn't anything you can do about it. Nothing to do with the R15 really. Garbage in/garbage out and when you blow that garbage up on a big screen and possibly stretch it it's going to look worse. An HR20 does a fine job making SD look better in my experience but it's still not going to look as "sharp" as it will on a standard def tube TV. Again, just the nature of the technology.

    Having said that one of the main points I used in selecting the HDTV I have is that it does a fine job of upconverting SD signals and if you sit the proper distance from the TV it still looks pretty good. One of the big traps people fall into when getting an HDTV is they just get the biggest size they can afford instead of getting a size that fits the room they have and the seating distance. A 43" set can look much better then a 65" set if you have a small room with a short seating distance. :) So I would recommend you get the proper size for your viewing needs, not just the biggest thing you can afford. I think you'll be much happier. With my 43" set my viewing distance is about 8-10 feet which is just about right.
  4. Upstream

    Upstream Hall Of Fame

    Jul 4, 2006
    Good suggestion, Ken. Buying just a monitor may be a good reason to wait until I can get a deal on an HR20/21. But if I buy before next summer, I would need the full TV to get the OTA tuner.
  5. lordfam

    lordfam Cool Member

    Jul 8, 2004
    Get your HD set now - you won't regret it. Get the largest screen you can afford, then go up one size. There are some smoking deals out there now, and you'll see more leading up to Christmas.

    Most primetime series and major network sports are broadcast in HD these days - college basketball on CBS is a wonder to behold. Not to mention the NFL and all the bowl games coming up. It's your dollar, but I doubt you'll save much by waiting until after Christmas.

    If you are not willing to spring for D*s current deals on the HR 20, check eBay for the previous HD DVR - the 10-250. You can probably pick them up for well under $100 now. They don't get the new Mpeg4 HD channels, but they receive and record OTA and the D* Mpeg2 stations just fine.

    I just upgraded to the new equipment and I have two HR10-250s and two non-DVR HR receivers taking up space in my house. I'm too lazy to mess with selling them on eBay, so I will probably wind up just putting them in the trash.

    If I knew someone local to me that could use them, I'd let them go for next-to-nothing (OK, nothing). Heck, there are probably people in your area in the same boat. Put a WTB ad in your local pennysaver and see what happens. I wouldn't be surprised if you see units offered for $25-50.

    Obviously, this is just my opinion. But - you asked for it.
  6. Pink Fairy

    Pink Fairy Hall Of Fame

    Dec 27, 2006
    or you can buy a PS3 that you can do the games AND bluray!
  7. willis3

    willis3 Godfather

    Feb 2, 2007
    If I sit 15ft from my TV, what size TV would look best,any opinions?
  8. rynberg

    rynberg Legend

    Oct 6, 2006
    Minimum 65" to really appreciate 1080.
  9. mellow1442

    mellow1442 Cool Member

    Dec 17, 2006
    To the OP, DirecTv may give you a deal on the H20/21 that would allow you to receive all the new HD channels. Do not recall you saying that DVR was a must have.
  10. Davenlr

    Davenlr Geek til I die

    Sep 16, 2006
    If OTA makes up a high percentage of your current viewing, get the set now and use that antenna. The holidays are gonna be chock full of good HD movies and specials.

    If you want a HR20, best to find one NOW. They are getting harder and harder to find every day. If D* offers HD networks in your market, you can wait for a good deal from them on a HR21, or just grab a H20 at Best Buy for $99 and record with a current Tivo or DVD recorder in SD until you make the Decision on the dvr/plan. You can still watch live in HD, and the H20 has a ota tuner. Directv will install a free 5 lnb dish if you buy any Mpeg4 receiver.

    And personally, I find the SD material still looks good on a 1080p monitor if you keep its original aspect ratio, and your monitor has a good scaler inside.
    DVD's in peticular look fantastic using a cheap upscaling player, or your PC as a input.

    At 15' you will want to check sets out in the store from that distance. I have 48" and watch from 12', which for me, is about right. My parents have 37" at 15' which about matches the 32" SD set they replaced, but seems a little small for HD to me (they love it tho). Don't dismiss WalMart either, they had a good $400 less price than either Best Buy or CC on mine, and have the most liberal return policy.
  11. ansky

    ansky Hall Of Fame

    Oct 11, 2005
    I just read a magazine article stating that the price of HDTVs will pretty much level off within the next year, and with the new 1080p sets coming out we are approaching the law of diminishing returns.
  12. RobertE

    RobertE New Member

    Jun 9, 2006
    You could always go the open box/return route at your favorite big box store. Always some great deals to be had right after X-mas and the Super Bowl. :grin:
  13. lordfam

    lordfam Cool Member

    Jul 8, 2004
    There is a thread in this forum with a very interesting chart of distance vs. screen size. The results for several different resolutions are plotted. It may help answer your question.

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