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OTA and AM21N Question

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Bevostein, Sep 2, 2013.

  1. inkahauts

    inkahauts Well-Known Member

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    I think adding the cap to the box was their way off "redesigning" it to work with outboard power supply s.. :lol:
     
  2. JohnBoy

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    Can someone explain "How to connect a am21 OTA Tuner with a HR-44 for Dummies"

    Since the HR-44 has a weird power cord hook up,this dummy would like to know how the am21 would configure exclusively with just the HR-44.

    Thanks..
     
  3. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    Can someone explain "How to connect a am21 OTA Tuner with a HR-44 for Dummies"


    Since the HR-44 has a weird power cord hook up,this dummy would like to know how the am21 would configure exclusively with just the HR-44.


    I'm not sure what you're looking for as far as "exclusively with just the HR-44" but here's how you hook up an AM21 to an HR44.

    1. Hook up your antenna to the input on the AM21.
    2. Plug the USB cable into the back of the AM21.
    3. Plug the other end of the USB cable into the HR44.
    4. Plug the power cable feeding the AM21 into the wall.
    5. Reboot your HR44 and configure.
     
  4. CCarncross

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    I believe you may need a different power cord....I have several, and I think the included power cord is meant to connect to an HR2x model...anyone know for 100% sure?
     
  5. Beerstalker

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    No, he doesn't need anything else. He needs to just ignore the jumper power cable that normally goes between the AM21 adn the DirecTV receiver/DVR.

    The removeable power cable on the AM21/AM21N get's hooked up to the power outlet on your wall (or UPS/Surge protector/etc). The other cord that would normally hook into the H2x or HR2x receivers/DVRs should not be attached to anything. You should put the little cap that we have been talking about on the end of it if it came with one. If you didn't get a cap I would recommend taping over the end of it with electrical tape if you have small children or pets around the house that may be able to get to the cord because it will have 110 power going through it (it would be like leaving an extension cord plugged into the wall with nothing plugged into it).

    The HR44 power cord should stay hooked up as it is.

    Then the other connections are the same as any other hookup. Hook th eUSB cable between the AM21/AM21N and the HR44, and the antenna coax up to the AM21/AM21N.
     
  6. JohnBoy

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    Thanks little buddies.

    Its killing me that there are only 3 channels on OTA that I wish D* had it in my locals line - up and I have to pay $50 for a little contraption.

    Central FL.

    31.1 Telemundo HD
    18.3 Estrella Tv
    27.3 Antenna Tv

    and thats hoping that the D* database picks these stations up...
     
  7. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    He doesn't need anything else, he just needs to plug in both units separately. The power pass thru is not a requirement, it's there for convenience.
     
  8. CCarncross

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    Are there 2 cords on the back of an AM21? Or does it come with 2? The power pass-thru and the regular one?
     
  9. JohnBoy

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    Is there an actual link to the database that Directv am21 use to pick up locals and sub.

    I would like to verify first if the actual stations I want are capable of the am21 pulling them in.
     
  10. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    It comes with one that plugs into the wall and then into the AM21. Then there's a cable that comes out of the AM21, built in, that can be used on an older HX2X unit.
     
  11. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    No, there is not.
     
  12. Gary16

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    Fyi When the AM21 is attached to the Genie it will pick up all OTA channels. It they are not in the D database the station will still show up in the guide but with no program titles or segment lengths so you have to set up a manual record.
     
  13. RAD

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    Not since a recent software update, it stops scanning and they work just like the HR2X's.
     
  14. coconut13

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    There's a link right in these forum's. Look at Transponder Maps: Domestic & LatinAm. Then look at the OTA tab at the bottom of the page for the database. Then LIL Market List tab to find your market. By looking you would be able to get 18.3 and 27.2, but not 31.1. The link is TPN_MAP_Domestic130904.xisx
     
  15. coconut13

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    Actually by looking at the database you can get all 3 channels. Orlando 18.3 and 27.2 are in D* database. (27.2 is listed as Antenna TV, you have it as 27.3 which isn't in the database). 31.1 is possible by running a 2nd zip code in your AM21 of Amarillo TX. 31.1 KEYU Amarillo TX runs Telemundo on that channel with the same RF frequency. So your AM21 would pick that channel up with the correct guide, by using Amarillo TX as a secondary zip. In Orlando, D* has about 20 subchannels in their database, so if you have a good antenna you can add quite a few subchannels with an AM21.
     
  16. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    That's for LiL's, not the database stored in an AM21.
     
  17. coconut13

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    It list's the channels available in D* database for the AM21 in the OTA tab on the spreadsheet. Currently 4005 channels covering 210 DMA's listed. By going to the LIL Market List tab you can see the 210 DMA's and find your home area's channels by going back and forth between the 2 tabs. For instance, Orlando FL is Network 651 if you look for it under LIL Market List, then you go to the OTA tab and look for Network 651 and it list's the 38 channels available in D* database for Orlando, simple as that.
     
  18. slice1900

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    I can confirm what coconut13 says. When I look at the LIL TPN MAP tab I see 6 locals being broadcast in my market off 103S (plus ION, a 7th which is listed as 'virtual' off 103cb) Main channels only, no subchannels in my market.

    When I look at the OTA tab I see 18 of them, and I can confirm those are what I get via my H20s and H24/AM21s. There are some missing, of course, as in most markets.

    One thing those who want to get channels not in Directv's database might not be aware of is that the H10 (and I assume HR10) do scan for channels. I have a couple H10s (used for Sonic Tap and in an office with a non-HDTV) and those actually do scan for OTA channels, and pick up the missing channels I could otherwise only see by connecting OTA directly to a TV. They have an ATSC tuner and HDMI output capable of 720p/1080i, but can only receive SD satellite feeds since they were designed for an earlier version of Directv's HD signals (MPEG2 instead of MPEG4)

    So those of you looking to get some channels not in Directv's database might want to check Ebay and see if you can acquire an owned HR10. You'd have to use some other source for your guide information since Directv wouldn't be able to provide it, but I assume Directv's DVRs provide a way of doing manual VCR style time/date/channel recordings.
     
  19. coconut13

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    Here's something you can try in the Cedar Rapids DMA to get channel 20.2 AntennaTV not listed in D* database. Run your intial set-up again with your Cedar Rapids zip as your primary and either 23173 Richmond VA or 36101 Montgomery AL as your secondary zip. This will give you 20.2 AntennaTV with the correct guide as your matching Richmonds 6.2 RF25 AntennaTV or 20.2 Montgomery AL AntennaTV. By matching either the channel (20.2) or the (.2 subchannel RF25) up the AM21 will pick-up your local station if your antenna signal is strong enough. It works with my HR24-200/AM21 set-up. It also works with HR34/44/AM21 set-up. I don't know if it works with your set-up.
     
  20. slice1900

    slice1900 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not really affected by this, since I don't really care about any of the missing channels. I just find it rather annoying that Directv limits their hardware artificially like this - to the point that Genies that used to do a proper scan were handicapped in a recent software update to use Directv's database. I see no reason why they'd do that, other than because they're worried about getting support calls from people who don't get guide data for some of their channels.

    They ought to add a special menu item called 'unsupported' where you can do a few things that people want to do, like enable a proper channel scan, but Directv won't provide any support for. I'm sure people could think of a few other things that enough people want that would be worth providing a way to enable/disable, even if they aren't supported.

    For instance, I wouldn't mind a way to have a "hide satellite duplicates" in the guide for my locals, so that Directv's version of the locals wouldn't show up and take precedence (i.e. if you type in '2 enter' it'll go to Directv's channel 2 not the 2-1 OTA channel that I want) I solved this problem by calling Directv and canceling the satellite locals (saving a whole $5/month!) but I wouldn't mind having them available for the rare occasions that storms near the broadcast towers cause reception problems but I can still pull in the signals via satellite.
     

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