OTA Antenna recommendations?

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  1. Soulweeper

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    I see they have a 400BV as well, but looks like that just brings n VHF channels, which I don't care about.
     
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  2. Soulweeper

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    Funny....if I use the Antop Signal Map, it recommends
    AT-125B
    AT-415B
    AT-417B
    AT-400BV
    AT-800SBS
    415 and 417 are outdoor only, so even though the 400BV is overkill, if I find a good price, I'll just go with that one.
     
  3. Athlon646464

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    I read elsewhere the 401 models are not as good, although they sound as good or better when you read the Antop descriptions. Stick with the 400 variations from a supplier where you can return it if it doesn't work out for you.
     
  4. jimmie57

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    I have tried many of the flat antennas, powered and not,
    Several of the small ones for inside and outside that show a long range.
    None of them got the VHF channels.
    Only thing that works for me is a small outside antenna.
    Just for the heck of it, before I put the outside antenna up, I mounted it on a pole lamp inside my BR. The reception was terrible. I had to keep rotating it for 1 channel or another.
    If the antenna you are looking at does not show the specific gain for the uhf and vhf it is a no go.
     
  5. Soulweeper

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    Yeah, I'm going to try the 400B or the 400BV. Seems the only difference between the 400B and 400BV is that the 400BV gets VHF, which I don't care about.
     
  6. Soulweeper

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    This is the one I'm looking at, or the 400B, which just doesn't get VHF.
    The Best TV Antenna for HDTV Reception - "Big Boy" | ANTOP AT-400BV
     
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    Thanks. Yeah, noticed that last night....was kind of surprised. They even beat Amazon, haha.
     
  9. jimmie57

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    I read, on here, a few years ago that an amp does almost no good. The reason is that you have to get a good signal to amp it up. That is what these types do. They amp up whatever they can pick up.
    At least you will be able to take it back if it does not work for you.
     
  10. Soulweeper

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    Yep, true. I just want CBS, to be honest. And KRON would be cool, but not a deal breaker. It almost works ok with the winegard Directv sent, so I'm hoping this will do it.
     
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    A pre-amp helps if you have a long run (50' or more) and/or splitters in the mix. Some will split the coax at the TV - one to the LCC and the other directly to the TV.
     
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    Signal loss over RG6:

    Channel 2 ………... 1.5 dB/100’

    Channel 13 ………. 3.0 dB/100’

    Channel 14 ………. 4.5 dB/100’

    Channel 51 ………. 5.6 dB/100’

    950 MHz …………. . 6.4 dB/100’ (bottom frequency of the satellite IF for DirecTV or Dish Network)

    2150 MHz ………..... 9.7 dB/100’ (top frequency of the satellite IF for DirecTV or Dish Network)
     
  13. jimmie57

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    My OTA coax is only 16 feet long.
    Thanks for the numbers
     
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    PBS was non existent, CBS, channel 11 was my hard one to get and ABC, channel 13 was third using inside and amped antennas.
     
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    When you talk about receiving channels by their numbers, look at their real frequencies - not their virtual ones.

    The chart I quoted above refers to real frequencies, of course.
     
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    As for splitters - (it's a bit complicated when you have more than a two port splitter)

    Most well made splitters do this to the signal:

    2 port - about 3.5 dB loss on each (or 50% of each original signal)

    Good quality splitters with more than 2 ports are typically made with multiple 2 port splitters. For example, a 3 port splitter will have a 2 port splitter on one of the first 2 port splitter ports. So, one of the 3 ports will have a 3.5 dB signal loss, while the other two will have a 7 dB signal loss.

    A 4 port splitter will have a 7 dB loss on all 4 ports.

    And so on and so on......
     
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    I heard the CBS lockout is over, they reached a deal today.
     
  18. Soulweeper

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    Really? That would be nice. I'll hold off ordering an antenna then.
     
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    Lol

    Been back on all day.
     
  20. Soulweeper

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    I had just got home when I saw the earlier post. Great news! Saves me $100 too!
     
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