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OTA for Hopper?

Discussion in 'Hopper System Support Forum' started by dunkonu23, Aug 29, 2012.

  1. Reaper

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    My OTA channels are going black nightly too. A reset fixes it (temporarily) but that's not so easy to do in the evening when shows are recording. :(
     
  2. DishTim

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    Same thing here.....all locals are gone!
     
  3. thomasjk

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    As are mine.
     
  4. 3HaloODST

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    I guess I'm lucky. I only had the black screen issue once.
     
  5. bobukcat

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    Same here except the only problem I've had was one night when they were all pixalating real bad, other than that no problems.
     
  6. thomasjk

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    My OTA channels were fine during the day yesterday and last evening as I posted above they all went to black screen. They are all OK today after the nightly reboot. I haven't tried "pull the plug" hard reboot but I will.
     
  7. scottchez

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    Today I went to an OTA channel it said could not get signal or signal lost.
    All OTA were then all black
    I went to setup and it said the normal 90% signal
    I rebooted and it fixed.
    2nd hopper had no issues. It has no Joeys
    Bad hopper has one Joey and a sling adapter.
    We need DIRT to open or update the ticket on this issue as it seems to be spreading.
     
  8. thomasjk

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    I pulled the plug and of course they came back only to go back to the black screen issue later in the day. The hard reset also brought back by EHD. We'll see if its still there in the morning.
     
  9. Dec 1, 2012 #309 of 369
    jerry downing

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    My EHD had not given me any trouble until I added OTA. Now I get the same problem. Dropped EHD and black OTA consistently. Do I blame S230 or The addition of OTA which occurred at the same time? I have noticed that people who are complaining about one problem also have the other.
    The hopper manual states only one USB device can be used at a time so why three USB ports? Perhaps a later software revision allows more than one USB device and the manual was not revised accordingly.
    I will not record from OTA because I do not want to record black.
     
  10. Dec 1, 2012 #310 of 369
    722921

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    Sounds like a big fly in the soup...
     
  11. Dec 1, 2012 #311 of 369
    thomasjk

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    The EHD is missing in action again and OTA is working correctly for now.
     
  12. Dec 1, 2012 #312 of 369
    Grandude

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    I'm starting to wonder if there might be something in common like the brand of EHD. Perhaps those with the problem could mention the HD brand and size.

    Also, if it were me, I would try powering off the EHD when not actually using it to see if, even tho the USB cable to the drive is connected, it might not affect the OTA reception.
     
  13. Dec 1, 2012 #313 of 369
    scottchez

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    I figured out how to reproduce on demand.
    The issue is if the signal drops to zero due to multi pathing too many times the software for OTA driver crashes requiring a reboot. It has to drop about 5 times. To reproduce unplug the ant cable for just 2 seconds then plug it back in ,repeat until crash. Reboot fixes every time. My strong signal stations do not cause this as there is no multi path issue.
     
  14. Dec 1, 2012 #314 of 369
    jack byron

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    My EHD had not given me any trouble until I added OTA. Now I get the same problem. Dropped EHD and black OTA consistently. Do I blame S230 or The addition of OTA which occurred at the same time? I have noticed that people who are complaining about one problem also have the other.
    The hopper manual states only one USB device can be used at a time so why three USB ports? Perhaps a later software revision allows more than one USB device and the manual was not revised accordingly.
    I will not record from OTA because I do not want to record black.
     
  15. Dec 2, 2012 #315 of 369
    jeffdb27

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    Well, I went on vacation for a week, and was happy:) to come home and find that I finally got the software update to enable the OTA tuner.

    I was not happy:(, but also not surprised, to find that the guide info for my local FOX is still missing. KAAS Salina, KS mirrors KSAS, Wichita. Worked for years then stopped.

    I didn't know this adapter would tune analog stations but it is. We have a weak (LP) ABC translator here that it is receiving. The guide info is there even for that station!
     
  16. Dec 2, 2012 #316 of 369
    3HaloODST

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    I guess that explains why some people experience the black screen more than others. I only had it once, personally.
     
  17. Dec 3, 2012 #317 of 369
    Reaper

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    There's a thread about the OTA black screen issue over on Sat Guys. The advice seems to be to make sure your OTA tuner is flat. Then delete all OTA channels and save, then rescan the OTA channels and save again. Any OTA timers will have to be recreated.

    I too had my EHD drop off a couple times since I added the OTA module. I only followed the above instructions yesterday but am hopeful that it will help.
     
  18. Dec 4, 2012 #318 of 369
    sregener

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    I debated starting a new thread on this, but I wonder if I'm the only one seeing this behavior:

    I have a Dish Slingbox Adapter and an OTA module. I see three issues so far with this setup.

    1) I cannot set up recordings remotely for OTA channels - they do not show up in the guide - using dishonline or the Android app.

    2) I cannot playback an OTA recording using the Sling adapter, either while they are recording or after playback is complete.

    3) You cannot manually add channels if a scan does not see them (feature unavailable) and you cannot keep channels that the most recent scan did not see, even if you've had them in the past (such as with a rotor-mounted antenna.)

    Other than that, I'm loving the OTA adapter. Even with a temporary antenna mount which is in a horrible position, I'm getting all but one of my local channels reliably. When the weather warms up, I'll be moving it to a better location and adding a rotor, which will give me a serious boost.

    I have not seen the black channel problem except for channels that a current scan does not receive. Tuning to another OTA channel works fine. I've done at least 10 channel scans so far.
     
  19. Dec 5, 2012 #319 of 369
    jeffdb27

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    With the vip722k and Sling Adapter, you could see the contents of a connected external hard drive. That ability has disappeared with the Hopper.
     
  20. Dec 6, 2012 #320 of 369
    byli5

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    Just got DISH Hopper + Joey and just got OTA module. Getting local channels but no guide info. Can you tell me what the next step is?
     

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