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OTA HD Channels, do I get guide info?

Discussion in 'DISH™ OTA Support and Discussion Forum' started by AppliedAggression, Mar 5, 2008.

  1. AppliedAggression

    AppliedAggression Godfather

    Aug 16, 2003
    I'm getting a 722 installed next week and I planned on getting locals OTA and not through Dish. How do the locals show up on the 722, and do they have guide information even if I don't subscribe to them through Dish?

    Also, anyone know if the 722 comes with a HDMI cable?
  2. scooper

    scooper Hall Of Fame

    Apr 22, 2002
    Youngsville NC
    You will NOT get a guide for your local channels without subscribing to Dish locals. Even the digital channels.
  3. RASCAL01

    RASCAL01 Godfather

    Aug 1, 2006
    You can still set up a manual timer just like a VCR.. No guide data unless you pay E* $5 a month for it.
  4. tmanmi

    tmanmi AllStar

    Mar 25, 2005
    What I find weird is that my dish locals are in one dma and my ota locals are from another dma but the ota locals do show up in the guide with info. It it just because they happen to be the same network?

    I also can't record both the same network on dish and ota locals at the same time. I like to record my ota's because they are in hd and use the dish non-hd locals as a backup in case I have a drop out on the ota.
  5. AppliedAggression

    AppliedAggression Godfather

    Aug 16, 2003
    Thanks, this kind of sucks because I thought I'd be saving $5/month. I guess I'll see how it goes before I order locals.

    Why can't you record your OTA and sat locals at the same time?

  6. saltrek

    saltrek Godfather

    Oct 22, 2005
    As long as you're subscibing to some locals, the guide information will usually appear for neighboring locals that can be received via OTA (there have been some noted exceptions to this).

    There should be no reason that you shouldn't be able to record the same network on OTA and satellite at the same time. The only thing I can think of, is that the receiver will automatically "X" out the 2nd recording thinking it's a duplicate. You have to go to the schedule and override the "X" to make it record the same show twice.
  7. tmanmi

    tmanmi AllStar

    Mar 25, 2005
    Yes, that's what it does, "X" out the second recording. I will try to override it tonight.

    Thanks for the tip.
  8. Michael P

    Michael P Hall Of Fame

    Oct 27, 2004
    If you have DVR advantage subbing to locals are required.

    I held out on subbing to my locals because the quality of the SD locals via satellite was not as good as what I could get OTA. When this year's price increase was announced it made sense for me to get DVR advantage. My bill went up $1.01 and I now get guide data and a second source for my locals.

    I also get some OTA signals from a distant DMA - their guide data is included! The network affiliation of a distant local has no bearing on why you get the guide data. For example my local ABC affiliate has a habit of dropping the entire Saturday ABC prime time line-up. I can see what the other ABC affiliates are getting in my guide (unfortunately I only get distant ABC when the atmosphere assists - I do get a CBS & FOX combo - HD CBS/SD FOX on a sub channel, 24/7 distantly). As long as I keep the distant stations scanned in, I will see the guide data. The guide data is based on the call letters of the station. When you initally scan in any digital station PSIP data identifies the call letters of the station. Then the E* software matches the OTA guide to guide data they have for those call letters. I even get some sub channel guide data (but not when browsing?!?). This is with a 921.

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