OTA Timers - not firing and not showing in Daily schedule

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  1. Apr 16, 2009 #41 of 177
    Ron Barry

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    I record OTA mutiple times a weeks and have not seen this issue. Not sure what to say at this point as it seemed to crop up in Pitt at the same time and it did not appear to happen as a result of a release from what I can tell.

    So CoolGui, when did you start seeing this occur and is there anyone else in Tx seeing this? The Pitt guys are saying it is all OTA right? Is it all OTA CoolGui?
     
  2. Apr 16, 2009 #42 of 177
    ubankit

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    My ota timers on a 622 are still disappearing when I set to record "new" episodes, I tried to set several for Fox shows (KRIV-26; don't know what the digital channel number is) on Monday (4/13), they didn't appear in the schedules recordings list or show up in the guide the next day, guessing the daily update knocked them off. I'm still using the "weekly" option for ota recordings. I haven't had any problems with sat "new" timers. I'm in the Houston area.
     
  3. Apr 16, 2009 #43 of 177
    CoolGui

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    I should be clear that I can record from OTA fine, but when I set it to record 'all' or 'new' it doesn't catch any of the additional weeks/times something is shown.


    My issues are exactly the same as ubankit describes. It's only OTA, SAT timers work fine. And I'm in Houston, so maybe it's only affecting specific local areas, Houston and Pittsburgh. I know it started around March 28th or so... I am able to pinpoint it because I changed my package around that time. I thought that was the cause but after I heard other people were having the problem I didn't think so any longer. Unless we *all* recently changed our package and it happened to all of us? That seems unlikely though.
     
  4. Apr 16, 2009 #44 of 177
    Mark Lamutt

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    Guys, try forcing a guide data fetch to see if the timer database rebuilds your OTA timers. (Meaning, force a guide data download by scrolling to the end of the guide. If you don't get the option to update your guide data, then rescan your OTA channels, and then scroll to the end of the guide to force the download).

    This is going to be a problem in the Denver area today, as 3 of our channels went digital only last night, and 2 of them changed broadcast frequencies, which forces a channel rescan. After an OTA channel rescan, the OTA timer database is not rebuilt, meaning that any OTA timers will not fire until a guide data fetch is done.
     
  5. Apr 16, 2009 #45 of 177
    bbomar

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    I think this is an old problem and appears to be DMA dependent and to also require the presence of local HD channels to exist. See this thread:

    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=139720&highlight=bbomar&page=5
     
  6. Apr 16, 2009 #46 of 177
    CoolGui

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    I have refetched the guide probably 10 times, rescanned the locals maybe 5 or 6 times... And it's close to 3 weeks ago, I really suspect it's something more than just the guide data. I'll try the refetch/rescan again when I get home today to make sure, I haven't tried in a week or so.
     
  7. Apr 23, 2009 #47 of 177
    CoolGui

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    Oh I forgot to update, I tried it again this weekend and same thing. The only work around I've found that works is to set the timers to weekly instead of "All" or "New"
     
  8. Apr 28, 2009 #48 of 177
    CoolGui

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    I'm continuing to have problems with this. I tried to create some new OTA timers using the "Weekly" setting tonight because there were storms and OTA reception is usually more reliable and they didn't record at all. Yes, I skipped the SAT recordings and I verified the OTA were set to record properly. I don't know what to do now, it seems like OTA is not useful for anything but viewing now.
     
  9. Apr 28, 2009 #49 of 177
    Ddavis

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    In my experience, creating a new "New" timer a couple of hours before the show works.
     
  10. Apr 30, 2009 #50 of 177
    lazerace

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    I've had this problem for some time as well. I've basically redone all my timers so they use the Dish instead of OTA. I've also noticed if I create a new timer the same day it's supposed to kick off it does, but after that no go. I may try this rainy weekend to see if the OTA timers work like thay should.
     
  11. May 11, 2009 #51 of 177
    pghbob

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    here's a little bit of new info that may help diagnose this problem: i've noticed that over the air timers for our pbs hd ch. 13-1 are firing, unlike the network timers. but here's the difference- dish doesn't carry this pbs hd over the air ch. in pittsburgh, only the networks are spot beamed to us in hd., pbs is only in sd.

    bob
     
  12. May 29, 2009 #52 of 177
    cdub998

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    I just wanted to throw in that my OTA timers all just died. So there is a new area now.
     
  13. May 29, 2009 #53 of 177
    cdub998

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    Thought I would throw something elso out there i noticed. I don't know if its a coincidence but my Locals just moved from 118.7 to 129. could that have anything to do with it?
     
  14. May 29, 2009 #54 of 177
    CoolGui

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    Perhaps. I know mine just moved recently too. It seems like they moved a bit before the problem started, but I can't be sure. I don't know why this would affect OTA channels/timers, but I sure don't doubt it without knowing more.
     
  15. May 29, 2009 #55 of 177
    CoolGui

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    I think I have just found a correlation of the channels that don't work with OTA timers to the channels that don't show up the Dish Remote Access guide. The only channels that do show up in the Remote Access guide actually work with OTA timers. This *HAS* to be related somehow.
     
  16. May 29, 2009 #56 of 177
    cdub998

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    Thats very interesting that you mention that. I just looked at my online guide and channel 50-01 is fox HD for me on my antenna and on the sling guide it says ESPN2.
     
  17. May 29, 2009 #57 of 177
    Ron Barry

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    Yes definitely some interesting info. Might be releated to channels moving SATs. I would suggest the guy cdub998 try what Mark Lamett suggested to see if you can get them back. This would explain why this seems to be localized.
     
  18. May 30, 2009 #58 of 177
    cdub998

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    I actually did that. tech support even had me reset everything to default and redo it guide data and all. No deal.
     
  19. Jun 1, 2009 #59 of 177
    TubaSaxT

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    My OTA timers are not firing in St. Louis. Our locals just moved from 118 to 129, as well. Missed Leno's last show because of this. :confused:
     
  20. Jun 2, 2009 #60 of 177
    cdub998

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    Well the tech support person told me they would send it to the engineers. he thought it was software related and that they have other reports of this problem. Said they would try to have it fixed in the next software update.
     

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