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Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by 1953, Dec 13, 2017.

  1. Dec 15, 2017 #61 of 115
    GordonGekko

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    Your opinion is welcomed, maybe I conflated your post with some of the others labeling the people complaining as whiners and chiding them to get over it, if so then I apologize.

    Happy Festivus
     
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  2. Dec 15, 2017 #62 of 115
    GordonGekko

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    Yes I'm not certain if it will be a solution, debating on buying it, it would help though with sports because when fast forwarding through an NBA game you can monitor the score.
     
  3. Dec 15, 2017 #63 of 115
    JerryMeeker

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    I agree. There are trade-offs. The best solution would be an update that permanently removes the fade, which serves no purpose, IMO.
     
  4. Dec 16, 2017 #64 of 115
    RickL

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    Yes I agree there are trade-offs. Everyone has different desires.
    For me this works because I have no need to look at the progress bar when ff or skipping.
    Agree the fade serves no purpose. Since they removed it from the guide and list, I don't see why the couldn't remove it everywhere.
     
  5. Dec 16, 2017 #65 of 115
    Rich

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    Did not point that post at you.

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  6. Dec 16, 2017 #66 of 115
    TBlazer07

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    Older crowd = me (70). I just don't like the new GUI and find it annoying and unnecessary but, I got used to my wife after 50 yrs so I'm sure I'll eventually get used to this as well
     
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  7. Dec 16, 2017 #67 of 115
    TimCoh

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    I say if it works why fix it.
     
  8. Dec 16, 2017 #68 of 115
    TBlazer07

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    Progress !!!!!! :D LOL


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  9. Dec 16, 2017 #69 of 115
    tegelad

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    The core issue I see with this GUI is the contrast between the fonts on the screen and the background. To ensure people who have lower resolution, and lower quality TVs and the ability to see it from a distance needs to be larger block letters with proper contrast ... if it isn't done, people won't be able to read it.

    The other thing is they did the #1 no-no for GUIs .... you always offer a toggle allowing movement between old and new interfaces and transition time. Mad dropping this on a customer base in a break-fix/Agile way is guaranteed to piss someone off, and rarely enthuse many users ....

    There are some nice feels to the GUI, but God help you if you have a 30-42" TV at a distance with some natural daylight in the room and you are trying to read the show details ....

    Big Fonts, good contrast, fast execution are what people care about ....
     
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  10. Dec 17, 2017 #70 of 115
    Rich

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    My first father-in-law was an old man when I met him (I was 16). Bald, gray hair, had a bad heart. Crabby and strict, difficult to get along with. Just an old crabby man...He passed away ten years after I met him...he was 57. And old.

    My point? Some folks just get old. Some folks don't seem to age. Can't define "older crowd", just can't. Depends on who is in the crowd. As an example, catch a Seattle Seahawks game and check out Pete Carroll, watch him run around the sidelines...tell me he's "old".

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  11. Dec 18, 2017 #71 of 115
    carl6

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    "Older" is a combination of physical and mental states. I'm almost 73. Until I was 72, I was healthy, active, mentally felt and acted much younger. Didn't even start serious motorcycle riding until I was in my 60's, and have ridden in all 50 states and 10 Canadian Provinces - crossed the continent 6 times, putting over 350,000 miles on big bikes. I'd ridden some smaller bikes off and on over the years, but never seriously.

    My mind still wants me to think I'm "younger", but my body is finally telling me to "act my age". Pinched nerves, bad knees, other issues. I can no longer ignore some of these physical issues, and they most certainly effect both my physical activity as well as my mental frame of reference. The result is, in some ways I'm starting to "think like an old man". As a minimum, I'm sure starting to understand things about the "older" generation I never really had an appreciation for before. I guess it's because I'm becoming part of the "older" generation, despite my darndest attempts to ignore that fact.

    Now comes the somewhat startling part, for me anyway. As I'm forced to acknowledge my physical "maturing", it becomes easier mentally to take on that persona. All of a sudden it's "okay" to be a "grumpy old man" at times. All of a sudden, it's "okay" to not like change or want to accept it. Hell, if my body wants me to be old, then maybe I should be old. And what I've found is, if you are not careful, it can be all too easy to slip into that mental frame of mind.

    So as to "some folks just get old. Some folks don't seem to age.", well it depends a whole lot on both their physical and mental states. If they stay healthy and active physically, then they will almost certainly stay "young at heart" mentally. Like Pete Carroll. No, he's not "old", not yet anyway. And yes, there are many an "old man" out there who is younger than he is, or than I am.

    For the folks that don't take that good a care of themselves, who don't have healthy lifestyles, who don't stay active when they are younger, they will grow "old" a lot faster than others who do. As your body starts "complaining", no matter what age that is, your mind is going to tend to go along with that, and presto, you are "old".

    Me, I'm trying to turn back the clock just a little. Medications, exercise, physical therapy, all can help reduce the aches and pains. And when those are not so noticeable, the mental state springs back also. And then you are more willing to work on the physical side. It's a positive "viscous circle". The time and effort required to exercise and do PT, etc., is worth it. The return on that investment will keep me "young" a bit longer. And maybe, it will help me not be so quick to take on the "old persona". My mind says I'm not done riding yet. Now I just need to get the body back in the groove. And when I do, I will once again be young at heart, regardless of how many years on the clock.
     
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  12. Dec 18, 2017 #72 of 115
    Rich

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    Keep fighting...or...the alternative kinda sucks. The father-in-law I mentioned was, to me, a classic example of how someone can just slip into being "old" and kinda give up. And he was a highly respected physical education teacher in a high school in NJ. Never saw him do any exercises, never even went for a walk. Puzzling man. Old before his time.

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  13. Dec 18, 2017 #73 of 115
    Phil T

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    I turned 65 this year and agree with Carl on “being older”. I am in good health and feel good but it is a struggle to stay on top of it all. I try to get out and be active as much as possible. I like to try and walk 3 miles a day, but this time of year it is hard and I hate a treadmill. It is also hard when your wife is having knee problems and doesn’t share you enthusiasm on trying to stay fit.

    I am beginning to fully understand how many don’t like change. I am the go to tech guy for many family and friends. I get called when there are phone/computer/DVR problems/updates and the number one thing I hear is “why can’t they leave it alone”!!!

    I made a lot of changes the last couple of months to simplify my technology life. I got rid of satellite TV and went back to cable after 20 years. I also decided not to spend a lot of money to upgrade my MacBook Pro computer. I looked at my needs and purchased a 12.9” iPad.

    Technology is changing so fast that it is hard “for me’ to stay on top of it any more. I have always enjoyed the challenge but there comes a point when the hassle factor makes it no longer enjoyable.

    This happened with me with AT&T/DirecTV. Without going into all the details, the hassles outpaced the enjoyment and I had to move on. We are very much enjoying our Tivo with cable and I am happy I made the switch.
     
  14. Dec 18, 2017 #74 of 115
    Rich

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    What cable provider do you use? How does the PQ compare to D*'s?

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  15. Dec 18, 2017 #75 of 115
    Herdfan

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    My mom (89 years old) has enough trouble reading the current one. Bought her an 80" TV over the summer to help her see it. So if the new one is worse, am I am going to have to get her a projector?
     
  16. Dec 18, 2017 #76 of 115
    jimmie57

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    Can you go back to the HR24 ? They are not changing it.
     
  17. Dec 18, 2017 #77 of 115
    Phil T

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    I am with Comcast/Xfinity. Never been a big fan but with a 4K Tivo Bolt VOX the program quality has been excellent. I ran them side by side for about 15 days and could hardly see any difference. Love the commercial skip feature.

    No 4K available through them but YouTube, and Netflix are apps built into the box. YouTube 4K is great.
     
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  18. Dec 19, 2017 #78 of 115
    Steveknj

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    I'm not a fan of the new GUI (although on my 55" 4K TV have no issues with the font, but with usablity), but if those cord cutters think it's going to be EASIER finding content by cutting the cord, trying to figure out what devices can do what and so forth, they are in for a rude awakening. That's actually what's stopping me from cord cutting, finding all the content I watch in one place, and getting all the content I want without having to pay for 6 or 7 different services to get it.
     
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  19. Dec 19, 2017 #79 of 115
    Steveknj

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    I'm in my late 50s. I have learned that there's a lot of change in my life, family work, whatever, and to roll with the punches. Heck, I like tech change if it's beneficial to me (or the greater good), I was an early adopter of Windows 8 and Windows 10 and while everyone was complaining I embraced it. I could see the benefits of some things, and I had moved "beyond" the Start Menu. But some changes, like this one, I just don't think were thought out well. As I said, the font issue is not one I'm having (maybe my TV is big enough and I have tweaked it will so that the picture is good, I don't know), but there are just usability problems that were not thought out well, and no clear transition from the old to the new (for those of us who were using the old GUI for years and years). Things that were just habit and worked well (such as the colored buttons, which, I know went away with the "new" remotes which I refuse to use), using OK to get into the description of the show rather than having it automatically play the NEWEST episode when pressed) and, moving around things from places they've been for years, such as the To Do list). I just wonder what benefit these things are for the user. The GUI of anything, being it a computer, or Sat box, or the screens in your car, should be intuitive, easy to understand, and clear, not muddled all over the place and harder to "guess" how they work. The screen is now WAY too busy in their zeal to get as much information on a screen at one time, for no logical reason. It's become info overload.
     
  20. Dec 19, 2017 #80 of 115
    ejbvt

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    This.

    I can't find content on the streaming services either. It's very confusing. Somebody has to tell me "go here, then here." People are supposed to come to me to ask where TV shows are.

    I am not even 40 yet. I have often felt out of place here, perhaps that is why haha. I feel very out of the loop with 4K because there is too much to keep up with for it to be remotely fun. 4K is such a minor improvement itself, it doesn't need all this HDR, HLG, and other stuff to screw it all up.
     
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