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Pac-12 Networks confident, even without DirecTV

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Athlon646464, Jun 29, 2013.

  1. Aug 1, 2013 #381 of 3046
    sum_random_dork

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    While some people will argue to support DirecTV and other's will argue to support Pac 12 Networks in the end it's "we" the customer who loses again. The Pac 12 has 2 teams in the top 5 pre-season rankings (Stanford and Oregon). Is it a Nat'l channel, I can't answer that yes or no.......but at the same point is B1G 10 Network a Nat'l channel? The Pac 12 is a wanted channel obviously on the West Coast, but there's also a reason Comcast is adding it in the Midwest. The Pac12 schools have a very large % of graduates that live in that area of the country.

    When Larry Scott was hired by the then Pac 10 he was told "expand our footprint and improve our TV deals." The previous deals for the Pac 10 were horrible, very few games were broadcast on a Nat'l basis, the 2nd/3rd games were mostly broadcast by FSN. So good or bad (your choice) he went out and generated a new much larger deal that brought the Pac 12 some more prime-time games and much needed Nat'l exposure.

    As has been said before this is the wave of the future for the big conferences. The B1G 10 contract is up fairly soon and the SEC channel will be launching within the next year or so. For those that want big college sports they will be searching out these conference owned channels one way or another. This is just the beginning....
     
  2. Aug 1, 2013 #382 of 3046
    woj027

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    I know WGN America is a national channel, but I was trying to think of a quick reply.

    (I inserted this after typing the below -- Rambling Rant on)

    The point is that every local channel is National. And that All sports are National, but thinking of a time when you didn't have 300+ channels, you had your "local" teams (here in the Pac-NW it was Seattle Seahawks, Seattle Mariners, Portland Trail Blazers, Seattle Super Sonics, etc) Now everyone has a "favorite" team and it isn't necessarily the "local" team. Colleges are much the same, although most major colleges (read NCAA FBS schools) the student body is primarily "local" but that doesn't mean the fans are not, nor the alumni.

    I think The Pac-12 created a National feed so that they wouldn't have this regional or local problem, but the problem will still be, that there may be a game (read Football) on a regional feed that someone who gets the national channel won't be able to see.

    I wan't my Pac-12. but I understand DirecTV's stance.
    It the same thing we fans say when we see a $10 million a year baseball player's salary.
    They had to get the money from somewhere, oh yea, us the fans.
    DirecTV is trying to say, "The fans say you're asking too much for that ticket (read contract with us) and we are not going to pay it. It's not our fault you paid $xxx for the deal with yyy team or paid $zz million a year to www Coach/player or promised $$$ to your conference. Enough is enough "
    The change has got to start somewhere.


    i liken it to my bad habit. Beer. There are some great micro brews out there, but I'm not going to pay $12 for a six pack. It's too much. I let my friends know that that is a lot of money for beer, and that if they don't buy it maybe the price will come down, They don't listen to me so the price never comes down. Now the beer I used to like for $7 a six pack is now $9 because they saw the $12 price work. Thanks a lot. less beer drinking for me, or less money for me to spend on something else


    Rambling rant off.
     
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  3. Aug 1, 2013 #383 of 3046
    sportman13

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    Verizon and Direct tv will it get Pac-12 Networks and Fox Sports 1 ?
     
  4. Aug 1, 2013 #384 of 3046
    Curtis0620

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    I predict Fox Sports 1 YES
    Pac-12 NO
     
  5. Aug 1, 2013 #385 of 3046
    sum_random_dork

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    Haven't seen any rumors in regards Pac 12 and Verizon. The rumor is that ATT UVerse will be getting Pac12 networks sometime the 2nd half of August.
     
  6. Aug 1, 2013 #386 of 3046
    tjguitar

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    Both. WGN9 is local. WGN America is national.
     
  7. Aug 1, 2013 #387 of 3046
    tjguitar

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    Um, no. Community access channels aren't carried outside of the community. Pac 12 Network is national channel, like the Big Ten Network. Pac 12 LA is not, it is a RSN which may be carried nationally.
     
  8. Aug 1, 2013 #388 of 3046
    pdxBeav

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    Yes, but if a channel is defined as "national" just because there are people outside of the local area who are interested then all channels can fall into that category.

    What is the definition of a "national channel"?
     
  9. Aug 1, 2013 #389 of 3046
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    A channel that is available for nationwide distribution is a national channel. WGN America is a national channel. WGN 9 is a local channel available only in the Chicagoland DMA.
    As I write this, the PAC 12 National channel is showing PAC 12 Rewind , while the LA Net is showing the USC Spring Game.
     
  10. Aug 1, 2013 #390 of 3046
    Mike Bertelson

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    PAC-12 has 7 networks. One of which is a national and the other six are the regional.

    With Dish, the PAC-12 Network is a national channel on the upper packages (Top 200 and above I believe). So, it is a national channel.

    I think it’s the sticking point for DIRECTV. PAC-12 wants to add the national to a national package and DIRECTV doesn’t want to. Neither will budge.

    Mike
     
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  11. Aug 1, 2013 #391 of 3046
    tjguitar

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    The definition would be based on distribution. Distribution is usually based on content. My point was that someone else pointing that the conference is comprised of 12 schools, most of which are in 1 time zone does not negate that the channel is national. Besides, road teams from all over the country are featured on P12N in various sports.
     
  12. Aug 1, 2013 #392 of 3046
    sportman13

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    Anyone know when Verizon and Direct tv and going to get Pac-12 Networks
     
  13. Aug 1, 2013 #393 of 3046
    Billzebub

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    As a Dish subscriber, why do you care if DIRECTV carries the PAC 12 network?
     
  14. Aug 1, 2013 #394 of 3046
    Billzebub

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    I suspect that DIRECTV felt they had a lot more to lose by not carrying the Laker channel than by not carrying the PAC 12 network.
     
  15. Aug 1, 2013 #395 of 3046
    sportman13

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    I have DIRECTV and Verizon will PAC 12 Network come on their ?
     
  16. Aug 1, 2013 #396 of 3046
    pdxBeav

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    Right. So "national channel" does not necessarily equal "national interest" or even "national fan base". Makes sense if it's based solely on distribution. I thought others were saying something different, but I think I misunderstood.
     
  17. Aug 1, 2013 #397 of 3046
    James Long

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    Nope. On DISH it is an RSN ... in market carriage in AT120+ and above, out of market carriage as part of the sports package. The same as every other RSN on DISH (including Big Ten). And the same as every RSN on DirecTV except Big Ten.

    Apparently Big Ten got a special deal on DirecTV and PAC-12 wants THAT deal instead of the standard RSN carriage. At least, that seems to be the answer that fits all the comments seen from PAC-12 and DirecTV.
     
  18. Aug 2, 2013 #398 of 3046
    Mike Bertelson

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    Interesting. I had called Dish yesterday and asked...not the most reliable source I know but she said since I'm out of market I would have to get the Top 200/250 or the Multi-Sports Pack to get the PAC-12 channel.

    Dish's website seems to support that but I know the same lineup on DIRECTV's website has been incorrect in places so, again, not the most reliable source.

    Of course I'll defer to you on this. This also seems to imply that all the members posting that PAC-12 is offering DIRECTV the same deal Dish would be incorrect.

    Mike
     
  19. Aug 2, 2013 #399 of 3046
    Mike Bertelson

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    Nobody knows and we're not going know. Right not we're just discussing the possibilities but as of now there isn't any information available. I doubt DIRECTV will get the PAC-12 Networks anytime soon unless PAC-12 drops the requirement for national carriage...but that's just my opinion. Time will tell.

    Mike
     
  20. Aug 2, 2013 #400 of 3046
    WebTraveler

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    This whole topic is old, people speculating this and that.

    Fact is:

    1. Pac 12 is not on Directv

    2. BOTH Pac 12 and Directv public statements say the channel is not coming anytime soon.

    3. Pac 12 chief says if you want Pac 12 you need to switch to a different provider.

    So those facts known mean its time for those who value Pac 12 to switch. For those that do not then they can hold firm.
     
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