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Pac-12 Networks confident, even without DirecTV

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Athlon646464, Jun 29, 2013.

  1. Aug 28, 2013 #821 of 2972
    pdxBeav

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    What makes you believe they haven't tried to reach a deal? Just because a deal hasn't been reached doesn't mean they didn't try.
     
  2. Aug 28, 2013 #822 of 2972
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    I'm sure they tried at some point, but they aren't talking today, of all days, 24 hours before the first football game. Serious talks haven't taken place for a while as neither party has changed it position. It could all change, and an agreement is made, but I doubt it.
     
  3. Aug 28, 2013 #823 of 2972
    inkahauts

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    I think they have but they've both drawn hard lines in the sand and that's just the way it is.


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  4. Aug 28, 2013 #824 of 2972
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    I think they tried in vain for months. Larry Scott said several weeks ago if you want the Pac 12 this year you will have to drop Directv as they were offered the same package as everyone else and chose to pass. Directv drew its line in the sand and Pac 12 drew its line in the sand. If Pac 12 were to offer different terms it would owe rebates back out to other systems and it's just not going to do that.

    If there was ongoing negotiation than Larry Scott would not have said that. He was up front in saying that the Pac 12 will not be on Directv this year. So you can take that for what it is worth - which means you can either stay or you can go. Or you can gamble on the limited chance something will break.

    But if Directv customers do not leave in droves then there is no way Directv will back down from its position so long as current management is in place. And if Pac 12 has just about everyone else on board except Directv (and Charter) in the footprint there is little incentive for it to back down.

    So there you are.
     
  5. Sep 12, 2013 #825 of 2972
    stoutman

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    FWIW....

    Swanni says talks are back on....
     
  6. Sep 12, 2013 #826 of 2972
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    And how much does anyone here believe Swanni. I am not sure that talks were ever "off". They just were not going anywhere.

    If we get PAC 12 network, that will be great. If we do not get it, it is not something that would make me think about leaving DirecTV. The three big non-conference matchups that involve a PAC 12 school this weekend are all available on channels other than the PAC 12 network.
     
  7. Sep 12, 2013 #827 of 2972
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    Two of the four games on the PAC 12 Net this weekend have major implications: Fresno ST @ Colorado & BC @ USC. With a win at Colorado and a win next week against Boise St., Fresno can put itself into BCS busting contention, and everyone who isn't a USC booster (and some who are boosters)want to see the demise (again) of Lane Kiffin.
     
  8. Sep 12, 2013 #828 of 2972
    fleckrj

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    Of the PAC 12 games this weekend, I would be much more interested in UCLA at Nebraska (ABC), Washington at Illinois (BTN), Wisconson at Arizona State (ESPN), or Ohio State at Cal (FOX). None of those can come even close to the interest or implication of the Alabama at Texas A&M (CBS) game.

    Fresno State at Colorodo might be more competitive than Tennessee at Oregon (ABC), but other than for the Lane haters (and I have to agree there are a lot of those - there were and still are "Fire Lane" signs everywhere in Knoxville ;) ), the BC at USC game is no more important than the Louisville at Kentucky (ESPN) game. Even if Fresno State does knock someone out of a BCS slot, it is like a bubble team making it into the NCAA basketball tournament. They are not going to do anything once they get there.
     
  9. Sep 12, 2013 #829 of 2972
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    I went back and read Swanni post and one line from it is an absolute lie:
    "Dan York, DIRECTV's chief content officer, tells the Seattle Times that most of the games broadcast by the Pac 12 Network can be seen on other networks such as ESPN."
    What is he talking about? Any game on the PAC 12 Net is exclusive to it.
    No wonder D* can't keep its story straight, when its execs don't know what they are talking about.
     
  10. Sep 12, 2013 #830 of 2972
    pdxBeav

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    Or maybe the reporter misinterpreted what Dan York actually said.
     
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  11. Sep 12, 2013 #831 of 2972
    George_T

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    Hey now, don't be bashing the signs in my yard now! ;)
     
  12. Sep 12, 2013 #832 of 2972
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    I hope it's true. I hope DIRECTV and PAC-12 are actively negotiating. I really want to see these channels in my guide.

    However, as many have said, I really don't think it's going to happen, at least not this year. And I can live with that fact. It's just not going to happen.

    I'm not going to switch to the only other provider in the area (Dish) as I have too much invested in my current setup. I can hit most Beaver home games as I don't live too far away and I'll live if I can't catch the game live on TV. Radio is still an option. :)

    So, I'll be patient and hope that my exceedingly low expectations will be shattered but I think DIRECTV has a much bigger hammer and the PAC-12 needs to move before we see some progress. Judging by all the TV ads and AD comments, that's going to be a pretty tough sell.
     
  13. Sep 12, 2013 #833 of 2972
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    Actually after reading the story in the Seattle Times, is was Swanni who totally took York's words out of context. This what York said: "It turns out the price-value proposition is even lower than we’ve offered. Most of the games fans really want to see will still be available on DirecTV.”
    I apologize to York and promise NEVER to trust Swanni ever again.
     
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  14. Sep 12, 2013 #834 of 2972
    Laxguy

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    That's a nice followup. Thank you! (It takes a gentleman to so correct.)
     
  15. Sep 12, 2013 #835 of 2972
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    I'm not even sure how to take this post.

    Just because you're not personally interested in those games doesn't mean nobody else is. Plenty of people would love to watch those games. If you're a fan of any non bcs team you probably want to watch Fresno since they're one of the main teams with a decent shot to bust the bcs.

    Plenty of people bet on these games too. It's not always all about the SEC.
     
  16. Sep 12, 2013 #836 of 2972
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    I hope this is a good sign, I found it interesting Uverse rolled out Pac12 last weekend. But they only added Bay Area, LA, and the Natl channel. They rolled all three out nationwide. I would say that is an sign they are not mandating 7 channels or nothing now that a precedent has been set.


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  17. Sep 13, 2013 #837 of 2972
    chevyguy559

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    We'll see about that if it happens....there's plenty of football to play, but yeah this dispute finally affected me this weekend as I'll have to resort to hacked (albeit high quality) streams for Pac-12 network using the HDMI out on my notebook to my 55" for my BBQ to watch my 'Dogs roll over the Buffs :grin:
     
  18. Sep 13, 2013 #838 of 2972
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    Totally agree. Really strange post from someone telling you not having access to certain games is no big deal because in their mind they're not worth watching anyway. The BC-USC game is fascinating to see if Lane and his team will implode, or if they have something left in the tank. Fresno State - Colorado is another interesting game, seeing if Colorado can begin their rise from the ashes.

    That's the beauty of all sports. Games are decided on the field, not in an internet forum.


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  19. Sep 13, 2013 #839 of 2972
    mhking

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    This is the first week that multiple Pac12 games are in play that a large number of folks want to watch (I'm tied to watching the BC-USC tilt myself), but yet again, DirecTV and the Pac 12 can't see eye to eye. I haven't even gone to DirecTV's message board. I'm sure they'll tell me to listen to it on the radio (what a NOVEL idea!), but I really have to wonder how much longer this kind of Mexican standoff is going to continue.
     
  20. Sep 13, 2013 #840 of 2972
    Laxguy

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    Until the Regents of the majority of the PAC-12 Uni's fire Larry Scott.
     
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