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Pac-12 Networks confident, even without DirecTV

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Athlon646464, Jun 29, 2013.

  1. Oct 7, 2013 #1001 of 3048
    BlackDynamite

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    Oregon St huh? The team a FCS beat. :)

    Stanford by 21+.


    That fluke loss in week 1 was Oregon State's only loss so far this season. They finished last season ranked and returned all of their best players this season.

    Stanford may very well win that game, and it may very well be a blowout. I'm just saying there will be great interest in this game.
     
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    I think part of this issue is a larger issue with FOX, fans haven't tuned into FOX or FS1 to watch games. People are so tuned into ESPN/ABC for most CFB and then CBS for SEC they don't think of checking the FOX or FS1. I believe over time that will change as more and more fans realize there are games on other networks.
     
  3. Oct 7, 2013 #1003 of 3048
    pdxBeav

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    Hey now! I resemble that remark. ;)
     
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  4. Oct 7, 2013 #1004 of 3048
    sigma1914

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    FS1, yeah I'd agree, but FOX didn't have issues last year. Heck, 3.4 million tuned in this season for West Virginia v Oklahoma, 3.2 million for Ohio St. v Cal.
     
  5. Oct 7, 2013 #1005 of 3048
    fleckrj

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    I do not think that has anything to do with it. If there is a game on that I want to watch, I will figure out where it is.
     
  6. Oct 7, 2013 #1006 of 3048
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    Well I want to watch the Stanford @ Utah game, but can't thanks to the geniuses at D*.
     
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  7. Oct 7, 2013 #1007 of 3048
    BlackDynamite

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    Well I want to watch the Stanford @ Utah game, but can't thanks to the geniuses at D*.


    Same here.
     
  8. Oct 7, 2013 #1008 of 3048
    sigma1914

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    You could find a way. There's "other" ways and more legitimate ways like a friend with Dish or a sports bar.
     
  9. Oct 7, 2013 #1009 of 3048
    BlackDynamite

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    You could find a way. There's "other" ways and more legitimate ways like a friend with Dish or a sports bar.

    True, but we shouldn't have to do that. I pay Directv over $200 per month. I shouldn't have to scrounge up a way to watch anything.
     
  10. Oct 7, 2013 #1010 of 3048
    Mariah2014

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    Yep and around here it would take 3 services to get all of the local sports channels, which is ridiculous.
     
  11. Oct 7, 2013 #1011 of 3048
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    My folks asked for my help calling in this weekend to cancel DirecTV thanks to a lack of Pac-12 Networks. It was quite an ordeal, but I thought some of you might be interested in what the retention script is for those that call to complain (and probably why there haven't been more cancellations as a result).

    1. Told that they are trying to add it as soon as possible, and Pac-12 is the reason it's taking so long. Referred to the DirecTV Promise website.
    2. Told most games are available on other channels (their generic use of "games" annoys me, as 95% of the Pac-12 Basketball games we want to watch aren't available anywhere else. But it shows that football is all they think these channels offer).
    3. Offered monthly discounts on package and HD fee.
    4. Offered Red Zone Channel for free.
    5. Offered Sunday Ticket for free.
    6. Offered premium movie channels for free.
    7. Offered a $50 one time statement credit in addition to above discounts.
    8. Assured they will have the channel very soon and was once again asked if we were very sure we wanted to cancel.
    9. Asked what company we were switching to. (folks are leaning towards Dish)
    10. Actually went to cancel the account and saw that my parents have a foreign language add-on. Told we had to cancel through the International Customer Service division.
    11. Transferred to someone in International Customer Service Dept who repeated steps 1-9.
    12. Waited 10 more minutes as the rep typed something into their computer and finally cancelled the account.

    Whole thing took at least 45 minutes, and we never once requested any more info on their offers. Simply said no thanks and nothing will keep us but at least one of the Pac-12 Nets. As reference, my folks were not under a contract, and don't call in very often to ask for discounts. They had Choice Extra for years, but downgraded to a cheaper package last year to save $.
     
  12. Oct 7, 2013 #1012 of 3048
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    Sounds familiar to what we had to go through last year, except the "trying to add as soon as possible" is a lie - clearly in a years time they say the same thing and with the Pac 12 saying the deal offer is the same as Dish its not really reasonable to believe Directv is trying hard.

    Threw in Sunday Ticket for me as well.

    This is all a script from Directv......they're like snake oil salesman....make it all sound good, but its a big lie underneath it all
     
  13. Oct 8, 2013 #1013 of 3048
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    My point is that you know where the game is being broadcast.

    Nearly everyone can get Fox. The ratings for Arizona State/Stanford were not low because the game was on Fox. The ratings were low because it was Arizona State/Stanford. If anyone really wanted to watch the game, they would have known where to find it. I have no doubt that both the Arizona State and Stanford alumni know how to read a TV guide.

    I have an app on my phone that tells me when and where the Kentucky games (and all of the other SEC teams, for that matter) are going to be broadcast (next game Alabama at Kentucky, Saturday 7:00 PM EDT, ESPN2). Alabama will probably win by 28 points, but the game will still have a larger television audience than most PAC 12 games.
     
  14. Oct 8, 2013 #1014 of 3048
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    Even alumni from other schools who are interested in good matchups and important games can read guides, too!

    For whatever reason, I detest Nick Sabin, so, GO KENTUCKY!
     
  15. Oct 8, 2013 #1015 of 3048
    BlackDynamite

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    My point is that you know where the game is being broadcast.

    Nearly everyone can get Fox. The ratings for Arizona State/Stanford were not low because the game was on Fox. The ratings were low because it was Arizona State/Stanford. If anyone really wanted to watch the game, they would have known where to find it. I have no doubt that both the Arizona State and Stanford alumni know how to read a TV guide.

    I have an app on my phone that tells me when and where the Kentucky games (and all of the other SEC teams, for that matter) are going to be broadcast (next game Alabama at Kentucky, Saturday 7:00 PM EDT, ESPN2). Alabama will probably win by 28 points, but the game will still have a larger television audience than most PAC 12 games.

    Most people expected that game to be a blowout. Even fans of Pac 12 teams skipped that game.

    Let's see what kind of ratings Stanford against Oregon pulls in before we declare the Pac 12 a conference with no interest.
     
  16. Oct 8, 2013 #1016 of 3048
    Laxguy

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    Whoa. I don't see anyone saying the PAC-12 (all caps) is without interest. It's just that the network of the same name doesn't have many games of interest to other than alums of the participating schools, or rabid fans of the conference, alums or not. Big difference. I can't wait for that game, and I am an alumnus of an effete Eastern university. :)
     
  17. Oct 8, 2013 #1017 of 3048
    sigma1914

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    Nobody thought Tennessee stood a chance verse Georgia, but it was the #2 game in ratings Saturday. Ratings and everything some of us presented to the staunch P12 fans here continue to show they're a clear 2nd tier conference for support and TV. Oregon is popular and good, but the P12 can't rely on 1 team. Stanford is close behind, but the flash and speed of the Ducks the bigger appeal nationally.
     
  18. Oct 8, 2013 #1018 of 3048
    fleckrj

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    Similarly, no one thinks Kentucky has a chance against Alabama, but the game will draw a large audience.
     
  19. Oct 8, 2013 #1019 of 3048
    BlackDynamite

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    That Tennessee/Georgia game was close and went to overtime. Of course people watched it.

    The Stanford/ASU game was a blowout. Whatever casual fans may have been interested in that game lost interest before halftime.

    You're comparing apples to oranges. A top 10 team going to overtime and nearly getting upset will always draw more interest than a top 10 team blowing out an underdog.

    Which brings me back to the Stanford/Utah game this week. If that game is close there will be a lot of people upset that they can't watch it. Even a lot of people who watched that Georgia/Tennessee game will probably want to see Stanford lose due to the BCS implications.

    I forgot to add, USC has a huge following too. Probably an even bigger following than Oregon or Stanford. They're just down right now due to the fact they wanted to, and did, fire their coach. When they hire a replacement after the season you'll see plenty of nationwide interest in USC again.
     
  20. Oct 8, 2013 #1020 of 3048
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    If Pig Howard could have just held onto that ball for about 1 foot more... :nono2:

    Although we lost, it was a great effort by Tennessee and by Howard and others. Not too often you see the home team lose and the fans give them a standing ovation when they walk off of the field. The Vols gave their all last Saturday, and we are very proud of all of them. Hopefully, this will be a sign to come of better days ahead.
     

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