cable systems and dish / directv are not really the same. Also pac-12 wanted to be on the same level as big ten on dish and directv. Dish has big ten in sports pack out of market and directv has it in basic for all. pac12 is in sports pack on lot's of cable systems. Directv seems to be having this issue with other RSN's like CSN Houston the Astros want it to be in basic for there full big and wide covage area. I think directv wants to put the outer rings in to sports pack like other RSN's. Well Huston is a bad example because NO ONE is caring it. You should check out the thread about it. The owners are all suing each other. The channel is probably going to implode soon enough.