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Pac-12 Networks confident, even without DirecTV

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Athlon646464, Jun 29, 2013.

  1. Jul 26, 2013 #161 of 2973
    tonyd79

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    Totally agree. I actually made the same point a long time ago. It is not just the following but the game availability nationally in good time slots.
     
  2. Jul 26, 2013 #162 of 2973
    tonyd79

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    Some of us loathe giving ESPN more internet hits.

    Scott basically said that their folks were talking to DirecTV again and would have an update Friday. When asked if that was a "grumpy no," he said he would talk about that tomorrow.
     
  3. Jul 26, 2013 #163 of 2973
    nitty316

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    Pac-12 head Larry Scott "urges" fans to "drop DirecTV" ...no deal coming this season.
     
  4. Jul 26, 2013 #164 of 2973
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    My biggest issue with this is the fact that DirecTV has started charging SF/Oak/SJ customers a $2 surcharge for RSN's. Nothing locally has changed for "us" still the same 2 RSNs we have had for the last few years with contracts in place. If DirecTV did add Pac 12 and came back and said they'd have to add the surcharge due to the cost I could understand it more. But, when you call into DirecTV and their response to customers asking why we are being charged more and they say "That's because of the new TWC Lakers/Dodgers channels." Well that's all well and good........if I lived in the markets served by those channels. But those channels are not featured in the Nor Cal market.
     
  5. Jul 26, 2013 #165 of 2973
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    Jon Wilner tweets: "(PAC 12 Commissioner) Scott on DirecTV "They're drawing the line in the sand" with #PAC12"



    Very distressing and hypocritical of DirecTV to claim to be the sports leader but trying to get a better deal than all the other carriers have agreed to.
    Wilner also tweets that the next carrier to sign on to carry the PAC12 Net will be AT&T U-Verse likely to be announced today. .
     
  6. Jul 26, 2013 #166 of 2973
    tjguitar

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    I believe that as a national channel, having the majority of your games start after the majority of the country goes to bed definitely negatively effects the potential.

    The fact is that DirecTV wants a cupcake deal like The MTN gave them, but it's not going to happen as long as P12N is profitable with it's distribution as is. The cable companies and Dish obviously see the value of the P12N. Allegedly AT&T is coming on board soon. DirecTV will either cave or they won't. I also think that if it was 1 channel instead of 7 channels that it would already be on DirecTV. The combination of 7 full time channels + low viewership due to time zone is just not a good combination. This is also why you rarely see west coast weeknight games on the MLB Network.
     
  7. Jul 26, 2013 #167 of 2973
    Curtis0620

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    PAC12 needs Directv more than Directv needs the PAC12 network.
     
  8. Jul 26, 2013 #168 of 2973
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    I would strongly disagree. There isn't any talk of the Net folding if it doesn't sign on with DirecTV. And while its true DirecTV isn't going out of business because its doesn't carry the PAC 12 net, it needs this channel to satisfy its loyal sub base in the West. Its must be embarrassing that it doesn't carry the NET that features the two largest Universities in its own backyard.
     
  9. Jul 26, 2013 #169 of 2973
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    The PAC12 needs Directv to meet it's revenue projections.
     
  10. Jul 26, 2013 #170 of 2973
    sigma1914

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    That's amazing you know what deal DirecTV specifically wanted.
     
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  11. Jul 26, 2013 #171 of 2973
    pdxBeav

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    Why shouldn't DirecTV try to get a better deal. Your statement makes zero sense. I'm in the PAC-12 market and I'm very happy to see DirecTV "draw the line in the sand." The PAC 12 should allow it to be sold stand-alone or part of a sports package.
     
  12. Jul 26, 2013 #172 of 2973
    sigma1914

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    To those touting AT&T agreeing ... You realize there's no way to compare their miniscule 4.3 TV subscribers to DirecTV's 19/20 million. Uverse is very limited and expansion has "virtually over."
     
  13. Jul 26, 2013 #173 of 2973
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    A bit more news that just came out. Comcast/Xfinity is now going to carry Pac12 (probably that Nat'l channel) throughout the Midwest. Would imagine that Pac 12/Comcast are working to roll it out more nationwide. Now if Comcast and Dish are carrying the channel in a large part of the country that puts some options out there. My biggest issue with Comcast currently and the Pac 12 is that they won't enable the Pac12 streaming via iOS devices if you use Comcast. You have to stream via the Comcast website only.
     
  14. Jul 26, 2013 #174 of 2973
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    The fact is, all of these other providers agreed with the Pac 12's terms and DirecTV has refused. It's hopeless for DirecTV to try and get a better deal because all of these other providers have already agreed to the Pac 12's terms, so the conference cannot legally allow DirecTV to pay less.

    I sure hope "the sports leader" is happy being the largest TV provider that will never have this channel. To me, they are a failure and their inability to satisfy me as a customer is very sad after so many good years.

    Again, there shouldn't be this animosity toward the Pac 12 and their asking price since all of the other major providers have picked up the network...it's clearly a fair deal and DirecTV doesn't want to pay and doesn't have the capacity to show all 7 channels at once because they hate people on the west coast and are contributing to the destruction of college football by helping all of their subscribers only focus on the SEC.
     
  15. Jul 26, 2013 #175 of 2973
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    wow so much vitriol. "failure" "hate" "destruction" lol

    hyperbole much?
     
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  16. Jul 26, 2013 #176 of 2973
    sigma1914

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    The terms/deals aren't the same, though. We know Dish gets advertising in P12 arenas and stadium.

    You still keep ignoring a question I've asked repeatedly about who's the sports leader.
     
  17. Jul 26, 2013 #177 of 2973
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    So Dish may have lower carriage fees in exchange the ad agreement. If Dish is paying less, but then is forking out money for advertising, the net fee to the average sub is probably the same as it is for subs of all the other carriers.

    There really isn't ANY carrier that can claim to be the sports leader in today's market None of the national & regional companies carry every sports channel that is available.
     
  18. Jul 26, 2013 #178 of 2973
    pdxBeav

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    Wow. OK. LOL! :grin:
     
  19. Jul 26, 2013 #179 of 2973
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    likely SD only
     
  20. Jul 26, 2013 #180 of 2973
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    DIRECTV has added that fee to every market that has more than one RSN. The costs for all rsns keep going up so it makes logical sense because all makers with multiple rsns are going up by twice the rate or more generally id bet.
     

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