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Pan Am OAD 09/26/2011 Pilot

Discussion in 'TV Show Talk' started by cj9788, Sep 26, 2011.

  1. phrelin

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    Québec, Canada, Karine Vanasse is a powerful actress. I hope we'll see her in other shows in this country. What I'd give for a CBCA to go along with BBCA.
     
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    An extraordinary natural beauty, and accomplished actress. Canadian and British actresses have to go through serious stage training. American actresses have to go through serious casting couch training. Pan Am feels like 5 high school actresses in with a seasoned pro. Kari should have her own show...I'd watch!
     
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    When Pan Am finally fails she will. She was the only thing that stood out as great about the show to me while I was still watching it. I'm sure I'm not the only one who thought that.
     
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    Yeah, and this last ep with the super-weak Haiti plot following the brutally preachy and heavy-handed interracial romance ep does not bode well for its continuance. Berlin and Paris were fun and set a high standard that neither the budget nor the writers can maintain. The US scenes have been uniformly awful. Too bad, there was real potential there.

    Just when the show shows a glimmer of intelligence and depth, they dumb it down with more of this lame high-school bickering between the US girls. Which goes nowhere week after week.

    This is why Jason Katims and Mathew Weiner and JJ Abrams and David Chase make the big bucks. They don't allow their scripts or casting to fall short of a show's full potential.

    Here's hoping somebody throws Kari a life preserver as this one seeks a watery grave.
     
  5. phrelin

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    According to TVbytheNumbers:
    She later clarified that the cast only has one more episode to shoot while the show has 5 to air until February. In the meantime ABC maintains that renewal of the show is still up in the air.

    I sure hope we get to see the talented Karine Vanasse on another show soon!
     
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    Too bad. Pan Am had great promise. So far I've only seen three or four eps, and enjoyed them a lot.
     
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    Pan Am debuted to strong numbers in September (3.2 rating, 11m viewers) but pretty much each week has lost viewers, down to a 1.8 rating and 5.6m viewers the week before thanksgiving.

    The idea for the show was pretty interesting, but I think it's clear from the ratings that this show failed in execution. Each week the uneven writing and poor casting choices chased away more viewers.

    It's one thing to try and win new viewers, but once they've watched your show and decided they don't like it, it's much more difficult to win them back. It's unfortunate, but the producers killed a show with a lot of promise.
     
  8. Supramom2000

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    I completely agree! It is more like a preachy soap now, without the appeal of Desperate Housewives or The Good Wife. I like the Collette character and I like the character of the stewardess who moonlights for the CIA. But I can't stand Christina Ricci, and she is terrible in this role. And the younger sister character is far too naive and innocent to even be real. The pilots are growing on me, but I didn't really like them at first.

    I also hated the plot line with the pilot sleeping with the Exec's secretary. It came off as contrived and forced, and I didn't feel any real chemistry between them.
     
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    As we are coming up on the season (and perhaps series) finale this coming Sunday (ABC will run the Academy Awards on the last Sunday of February), we thought that last week was a far better written episode than any to date.

    The LA Times has a piece interviewing writer-producer Steven Maeda who was brought in mid-season to try to fix it:
    The show could have been great, and given an opportunity Maeda might be able to create a different show from the wreckage. Whether that's affordable is in doubt.
     
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    When do they normally announce whether or not they keep a series? I'm curious about Pan Am and Revenge.
     
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    Revenge is a lock for renewal, as it's one of ABC's most successful new shows this year. There's been no official word, but with the way things were framed in the press about the "final episode," I wouldn't count on Pan Am coming back.
     
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    I have to agree. Baring something REALLY unexpected, Pan Am is finished.:(
     
  13. rrdirectsr

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    I'm glad Revenge will be coming back. I really don't care much if Pan Am does but other people in my family enjoy the show.
     
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    from deadlinehollywooddaily:

    Pan Am co-star Karine Vanasse is set to co-star in a new ABC drama project. The Quebec-born actress has been cast in the drama pilot Scruples. Executive produced by Tony Krantz and Natalie Portman, the project is based on the novel by Judith Krantz and centers on rich and powerful clothing designer Billy Winthrop in a world of sex, revenge and scandal.

    Scruples - ick.
    But at least Karine will get to show off her sultry side ;)


    ps - that probably means Pan Am is dead.
     
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    I agree. I never liked Scruples, nor novels/shows similar. I'd like to see Karine move over to The Good Wife. Or, if she has to stay on ABC, Body of Proof, or even Castle.
     
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    Just finished the last two episodes (or whatever that 2nd to last aired one was, I think it was supposed to be aired in November) With a screw up like that it doesn't sound like ABC thought much of it.

    Bummer it was different and had promise.
     
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    As the networks announce their renewals, from Deadline Hollywood:
     
  18. mreposter

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    without it's best actress, French-Canadian Karine Vanasse, I don't see this getting picked up by a cable network. She's likely a big draw for Europeans and so the show won't do as well without her.
     

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