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Papa Johns and Tipping

Discussion in 'The OT' started by Stewart Vernon, Nov 27, 2012.

  1. Dec 6, 2012 #41 of 153
    spartanstew

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    You don't have to believe it. It means it doesn't go directly to the driver. It's used for expenses which includes the drivers salary, insurance, etc.
     
  2. Dec 6, 2012 #42 of 153
    kick4fun

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    For the first time, I am agreeing with Hoosier205.. I know for a fact that the driver at Papa Johns make minimum wage while at the store and around $3.00 an hour while on the road.. He/she lives on tips.. The price of the pizza is not $10, but add the fee and tx and it's more like 14 or $15. Now, you want to tip?? Tip on top of that price, not the original $10.. Can't afford it?? Don't order a pizza..
     
  3. Dec 6, 2012 #43 of 153
    spartanstew

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    No, they don't pay the drivers car insurance, but their business insurance and umbrella policy is significantly more expensive when delivery is involved versus when it's not - that's the insurance expense.

    Again, the point alludes you. If they didn't offer delivery, they would not be paying the driver. By offering delivery they have that added expense, whether the driver is sitting there or out delivering pies.

    You figured wrong. If nobody delivered, would you never eat pizza???

    Back to my Little Caesars analogy: The implemented delivery nation wide and increased operating expenses significantly in doing so. Total system sales increases as a result of delivery: Less than 10% Nationwide. All they did was convert their carry out customers to delivery.
     
  4. Dec 6, 2012 #44 of 153
    James Long

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    OK. Then nobody gets paid. :)
     
  5. Dec 6, 2012 #45 of 153
    kick4fun

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    funny, but the point is it's better to tip than to stiff the driver.. Better yet, order from a nice local joint..
     
  6. Dec 6, 2012 #46 of 153
    WestDC

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    $2 service charge - Just wait for the free health care to kick in -You get what you vote for-- $40 dollar pizza +$20 Wings +tip - Out of Business in no time.

    Welcome to the New America.

    Looking forward to ordering Pizza from China.
     
  7. Dec 6, 2012 #47 of 153
    armophob

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    Whenever I order a pizza, it is because I need food and don't have time to drive or make it myself.
    I really never question the bill and I tip heavy because I drove pies as a teenager.
     
  8. Dec 6, 2012 #48 of 153
    James Long

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    If a 25%-30% tip is stiffing ... :rolleyes:

    The gratuity is "something given voluntarily or beyond obligation usually for some service". It seems that some have forgotten the voluntary part, turned it into an obligation and set required tipping levels that exceed generous.

    Papas is the nice local joint in my town. All of the name brand restaurants are franchises and the ones around me are owned by local business owners. I am not going to punish a local business just because the owner decided to align themselves with a national brand.

    We have some hole in the wall pizza joints ... delivery is usually not an option. We have a pizza joint that doesn't COOK the pizza for you. It is a "take-n-bake" ... put it in your own oven.
     
  9. Dec 6, 2012 #49 of 153
    kick4fun

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    If you tip 25% on top of the total, that is a great tip.. Very nice.. Just sucks for the driver to get to the house and get exact change and no tip..
     
  10. Dec 7, 2012 #50 of 153
    Stewart Vernon

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    That's the other point some keep missing in my posts... I'm always tipping at least 25-30% because I also always round up in favor of the tip.

    In other words, if a 30% tip ends in a weird change-requiring amount, I round it up to the next dollar or half dollar or whatever so that he doesn't have to give me any change.

    What I've been trying to drive home here (see what I did there)... is that I used to be able to give a nearly 50% tip to these guys before the store started adding a random fee that doesn't help the driver.

    When I go to a restaurant that has a mandatory 18% tip for "parties of 6 or more" or whatever the deal is... I know that 18% gratuity is going to the server so I start from there and add more. I'm fine because the mandatory fee is going where it should go.
     
  11. Dec 7, 2012 #51 of 153
    Joe Spears

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    Speaking of that specifically Papa John's CEO did release a statement regarding that back in August: Link to article
     
  12. Dec 7, 2012 #52 of 153
    James Long

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    Lets avoid politics please ...
     
  13. Dec 7, 2012 #53 of 153
    djlong

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    Sure. Just make up numbers. Why not try some *facts*?

    As a reminder, "Papa John" himself said it would cost between $5-$8M to comply with "Obamacare". Now, he's ALSO *giving away* TWO MILLION $10 pizzas (retail value around $20M). He also estimated that it would cost FOURTEEN CENTS PER PIE to comply with the law.

    That's *not* a $40 pizza and you do your arguments no favors by making up ridiculous numbers and throwing them out there. You only make yourself look worse.
     
  14. Dec 7, 2012 #54 of 153
    kick4fun

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    That's awesome.. No arguments here.. That fee sucks, another reason to avoid Big Chain pizza if you have the luxury to order really nice pie from a local joint..
     
  15. Dec 7, 2012 #55 of 153
    photostudent

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    At one time I would stop at Pappa Johns on my home and pick up a pizza. I happened to check my credit card statement and found a tip was being added to my bill. I tried to contact Pappa Johns about it and got no answer. Visa said those type of businesses could add 20% with no authorization. I normally tip well but I see more and more carry-out businesses pushing for tips. Why don't they just have the employees sit out front with tin cups?
     
  16. Dec 7, 2012 #56 of 153
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    My one kiddo moonlights as a pizza driver for Mazzio's in Norman. Hard for a kid with an English degree to make it with just one job in today's marketplace.

    They currently hire drivers at less than minimum wage as they are "tipped employees" like a waitress. He personally makes more than that as he has lots of pizza place experience and can also does in-store and closing duties.

    Mazzio's pays the driver about $1.15 of the $2.00 delivery charge directly. Papa John's pays $0.75 here. The local place Pizza Shuttle pays 5% of the order. Each place is different and the delivery charge varies.

    The drivers pay for gas and insurance, the stores don't get involved in that at all.

    My kiddo is very appreciative of tips and always tips the wait staff well himself at restaurants.
     
  17. Dec 7, 2012 #57 of 153
    dpeters11

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    The best pizza in town here is strictly carry out or dine in but with good reason, and I'd be out of their delivery areas anyway. But it's always fun to go in and see them tossing dough anyway.
     
  18. Dec 7, 2012 #58 of 153
    kick4fun

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    YES Indeed... After moving to Fort Collins CO, I can't order from any big chains anymore.. We have so many local breweries and great restaurants. I don't eat pizza often enough, when I do I want a really delicious and home made style pie.. And the beer here, OMG!! Again, don't indulge too often, but I can't ever drink a regular domestic ever again.. If I am really lazy and must have something delivered, I always tip $5.00 or more.. That's just me..
     
  19. Dec 7, 2012 #59 of 153
    hdtvfan0001

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    I haven't had a pizza delivered in more than 5 years...I just pick it up myself.

    But I do see them zooming through my subdivision all the time (usually nearly missing other cars or people in the process), especially Papa Johns.

    At this point....I'd likely give a pizza delivery person 2 tips: Stay in School and Don't Do Drugs.

    Most could probably use at least one of those. :D
     
  20. Dec 7, 2012 #60 of 153
    Rich

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    Believe me, I believe you when you say the margins are "razor thin" where you live, but I gotta wonder if that's the same here in NJ. Our pizza parlors seem to thrive. We got em all over the place. Makes me think...a "connection" of sorts?

    Rich
     

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