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Discussion in 'ViP612/622/722/722K DVR Support Forum' started by bobkeenan, Mar 12, 2007.

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  1. bobkeenan

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    Every now and then on some of the SD cable channels, or I assume they are SD, I do not get a picture that fills the screen. Normally I get the full 16:9 or the 4:3 but in these cases I get something that looks like 16:9 but it only fills about 3/4 of the screen and its centered on my screen with black around the picture. Is that normal or am I missing a setting.
     
  2. Jim5506

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    Letterboxed SD commercials. Normal.
     
  3. electronic man

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    How is your receiver hooked up to your tv, are you using HDMI - > DVI, because if you are and your receivers aspect ratio is set to normal then that will happen. Your tv is doing a auto aspect ratio set, some commercials and programs use different aspect ratios when they broadcast, so this is normal. ;)
     
  4. ssmith10pn

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    Exactly, I have the hardest time explaining that to customers.
     
  5. bobkeenan

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    I am HDMI to HDMI. Its a pany 50". Where I see it a lot is on the sci fi channel. Like right now I am watching startrek enterprise and its about 16:9 but it only files 80% of the screen with black all around that.

    I looked at a recording of dresen and its 4:3 with black on the left and right borders. I would expect that for most of the SD but this other SD 16:9 stuff that is smaller than the screen is odd??

    Almost all of the HD is 16:9 and fills the screen.
     
  6. bruin95

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    If you were watching that program on a 4:3 set it would be letterboxed with black bars on the top and bottom. Since it's SD, it's framed for 4:3 "widescreen". Since you are watching that program on a 16:9 set, it is what is called "windowboxed". Since it's technically framed for 4:3, the image won't extend to the left and right edges of the screen on 16:9 sets, hence the windowboxing of the black bars on all sides. You can use your TV's zoom modes to fill the screen when watching these broadcasts.
     
  7. TNGTony

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    The 622 has the "zoom" feature and to my experience looks better than using the TV zoom (aspect ratio) feature. On the 622 remote control while in the SAT mode, press the * key (just to the left of the zero) until the desired screen size come up.

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  8. bruin95

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    It depends on the TV. The zoom feature on my Toshiba 62MX195 does a much better job than the 622.
     
  9. Slordak

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    On many HDTVs, when receiving a high definition signal, the TV is locked into 16x9 "full" mode and hence zoom/stretch modes are not available. In such a case, one would *have* to use the 622 if one wanted to zoom.

    But yes, those are the choices... Either watch the signal as a "postage stamp" within a larger black frame on all sides, or use zoom. Definitely not a Dish Network or receiver problem.
     
  10. ssmith10pn

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    Let's don't forget sometimes you have full width on a 16:9 display but still have bars at the top and bottom. That would be CinemaScope™ 2.35:1 format and Runco is the only one that I'm aware of in the consumer market that will handle that full screen. ;)

    http://runco.com/cinewide.html
     
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