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Plasma or LCD for SD?

Discussion in 'Local Reception' started by sikma, Mar 16, 2006.

  1. olgeezer

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    We had JVC LCOS 720p rear projection for sale in 2001 and Philips LCOS 720p rear projection in our store for sale in 2003-2004. Do you need model numbers?
     
  3. harsh

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    I could have sworn they differentiated between the 720p models and the 1080p models in the way that I described.

    Boy, do I feel like I've been enhanced.
     
  4. Jason Nipp

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    Ah Marty, you know as well as I that's the benefit of working for one of the below mentioned display manufacturers.... way too much marketing/text book knowledge going on here don't you think? ;) But in the end, the marketing guys always make the development guys look like they aren't trying hard enough....huh? :D

    BTW Harsh, X-Tal is a electronics acronym for Crystal. :)
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  5. Jason Nipp

    Jason Nipp Analog Geek in a Digital World Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Gold Club DBSTalk Club

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    Actually JVC offers 2 lines of ILA displays, a 720p line and a 1080p line. I even have the full press video of the JVC president discussing the differences in the 2 product lines at CES.

    The first generation of the Texas Instruments DLP, prior to the Dark Chip 3 being introduced, were single chip DLP's. This included the Samsung HLW series.

    When using the term splitting color..... Oh forget it, not worth getting technical over. :rolleyes:
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  6. speedy882001

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    So, what is the best type of TV for rooms with big windows AND skylight?:confused:
     
  7. Jason Nipp

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    I would be happier with a CRT tube or Plasma over an LCD/DLP in a well lit room. My Hitachi LCD RP has a day/night mode and the antiglare filter and did well in my great-room. But when I swapped the LCD RP out with to an LCD flat panel the skylights above in my great-room can wash the screen out. I also have a Plasma and tried that in the great-room, and the plasma was definitely nicer than the LCD flat panel in that particular room. As always YMMV.
     
  8. Cholly

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    I have to agree with Jason on this. Our Sony 55 inch RP LCD receiver is in a 2 story family room with big windows, and definitely washes out during the day. Actually, it looks best when lights are low.
    To get a grasp on the difference made by light levels, visit Best Buy, Circuit City, and WalMart. Best Buy displays their big screens in a darkened area, while Circuit City and WalMart have theirs in normally lighted showrooms. Despite the poor PQ displayed in most Best Buy stores, you still will notice that LCD's look better there than in the well-lighted stores.
     
  9. Paul Secic

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    Thanks for the tip. I'm planning to buy a 42" LCD HDTV around Sept. if things go my way. I want to mount it on the wall with those swing away stand. Does anyone know where I can buy that?
     
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    It's mumbo jumbo to me. The average joe won't take time to learn this.
     
  11. Cholly

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    Paul: Circuit City and Best Buy both carry Omnimount cantelevr mounts, but they are very expensive -- $499 for one that will handle a 42 inch plasma or LCD TV. Fixed wall mounts are much cheaper -- typically $150 to $200. You can get basic floor stands for a lot less, which is why a lot of people go that route.
     
  12. Nick

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    Why spend a lot of money on a swing-arm mount you'll probably never use?
    Just mount it with two heavy-duty wall fasteners - 99 cents.
     
  13. Paul Secic

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    You're probably right. I'm in a wheelchair and can't do anything. I use the computer with a head stick.




    http://www.cpcoak.org/netlife.html
     
  14. Jason Nipp

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    The swing mount I have in my MBR cost about $79.00 and the non swing mount I have in the Greatroom cost me about $99. Both were made by Sanus I believe. Skywalker has some lower cost models that are nice.
     
  15. lastmanstanding

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    LCD is the wave of the future. Less burn in, better black levels. 1080p is costly but you will be set for a decade.

    An alternative would be to go cheap, do ED plasma in your screen size with the intention of scrapping in in 3 years or so when HD really gets going.

    ED will give you 100% of what you can get from regular DVDs and SD TV, and they really are pretty cheap and getting cheaper.

    An LCD 1080p is pretty costly even though it is the best right now. Bluray DVD players give a native 1080p output, but there are like 5 titles available right now.

    So for best bang for the buck for SD, ED plasma to give to the kids in 3-4 years when the real gear is available.

    LMS
     
  16. harsh

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    LCD will always have the screendoor effect drawback that doesn't afflict DLP or LCoS. For that reason, it will remain an alternative.
    Some 1080p units aren't as good looking as 1080i units. A lot of the modern HD technology lies in the image processing hardware.
    I wasn't able to find any that are actually shipping. Sony's eight releases were recently delayed until June 20th. Of those releases, one one or two of them appeal to me. I can't imagine who picked the titles.
     
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    As far as I'm concerned, "ED" lives 'up' to its name -- Erectile Dysfunction.

    I would not waste my money on any resolution that isn't 'up' to High-Definition!
     
  18. Cholly

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    that may well be true, but it isn't really very noticeable on most current LCD's such as my Sony KDFE55A20. Wheter you notice SDE or not depends to a large extent on whether the receiver upconverts SD to its native resolution and to viewing distance and ambient light. Granted, some of the cheaper LCD's still on the market have a pronounced SDE.
     
  19. lastmanstanding

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    Heh. Remember when CDs were first coming out? Man, the choices for the early titles were just plain weird. Looks like the same crew is making the picks for the new DVDs.

    LCoS visually has some real advantages, but almost all the press goes to LCD and DLP. I read somewhere that the LCoS chips have a significant hand assembly issue, some someone sits there with a microscope and a probe to push them together. That will keep costs up.

    Good point on the chipsets behind the displays. Even the DVD player can make a big difference.

    In the end we just have to look at the darn thing and make a choice. My thought is that fewer dollars spent now makes it easier to chuck the thing when better choices come along in 2-3 years. That may not be long enough the way MPEG 4 is creeping out.

    With the highly questionable broadcasts that pass as HD these days, I can't get too excited. As long as my coal fired gear keeps working and I can stand the smoke, I'm waiting.

    ED is generally cheap and a better set risks showing just how bad the upconversions are. Heh.

    By the time it all gets hammered out, they'll be offering 2160p.

    LMS
     
  20. lastmanstanding

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    I've noticed less screen glare with the rear projectors vs plasma, LCD. The newer DLPs have enough brightness these days to stand a lot of light. The tech keeps changing, choices are tougher. Right now I'm looking to avoid side glare, brightness and contrast are lesser issues. DLP LCoS are looking better.

    Nothing does well with direct sunlight hitting the screen. A little light control goes a long way.

    LMS
     

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