Playboy Spanish CH 578

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  1. codespy

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    No issues with HOA in this situation. They are tucked behind my roofline. Cannot even see them from the road or neighbor's house on the side, so I'm good there.
     
  2. slice1900

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    Whole home isn't a problem, just put a DECA on each DSWM30 leg (or on each dish) and connect them via ethernet.
     
  3. HoTat2

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    No, the DSWM-30 still does not have an internal MoCA crossover bridge between its two outputs. So you'd have to either use four CCK DECAs as slice states, possibly feeding a local ethernet switch, which in turn connects to your router.

    Or use one of the cross-connected OTA/SAT diplexer arrangements for paralleling multiswitches to distribute the MoCA signal over them.

    But again, unless you can somehow get two additional coax line runs down into the basement to carry the RB signals from an SL5RB legacy LNB, or willing to move the DSWM-30 multiswitches and other stuff outside up near the dish somewhere, it won't matter.

    Seems the easiest and least expensive option is to just use the two dishes with RB-3 LNBs. Remove the WB68 and two SWiM-16s and simply place a 2x1 SWiM splitter on two of the lines running into the basement from the LNBs. Which then connects to the four 1x8 SWiM splitters.

    Everything else would remain the same for the distribution board in the basement.

    Nice tidy wiring on the board BTW ....

    Makes it very easy to follow the cabling in the photo. ...

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  4. inkahauts

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    How many actual receivers do you have though. There’s a good way to use your two dishes and make this simple it depends on how many actual receivers you have, even the rv ones for when they are home.
     
  5. HoTat2

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    Yeah, I get what you're aming at ....

    With two dishes all he really needs is just another 3D2RB SWiM LNB and two 1x2 SWiM splitters ....

    And no substantial cabling changes needed to the distribution board except the bypassing and removal of the WB68 and SWiM-16 multiswitches. ...

    Job done. ...

    Very simple. ...

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  6. codespy

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    It’s in my sig, but basically 12- HR24’s and a HR54. The C61K doesn’t count, two other HR2x’s are in my RV, and I’m deactivating my owned H24. So basically 29 tuners without RB. I think that still puts me over the limit with the proposed setup?
     
  7. slice1900

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    Technically the limit with two dishes is 26, but so far people have reported getting 21 tuners on their reverse band LNB and no one has reported running into the limit of 13 which is probably in specific scenarios you aren't likely to encounter. Heck you have a reverse band LNB now, you could move your Genie and some HR24s over to it as a test to see for yourself if it works.
     
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    Good point, I’ve seen that 13 tuner limit indicated everywhere when researching, using the older dual tuner HR2x’s.

    Looks like I have an experiment planned for the weekend! Thanks.
     
  9. HoTat2

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    In theory at least ...

    The way it's suppose to work is that the pre-Genie receivers can only use up to 13 (14 including the common guide channel) of the 21 (22 including the common guide channel) maximum SWiM tuner channels offered by a 2nd generation digital LNB.

    Or up to 26(28) SWiM channels offered by a DSWM-30 multiswitch or 13(14) channels on each side.

    However, a Genie may use any of the 21(22) SWiM channels of a 2nd gen. digital LNB or 30(32) of a DSWM-30 switch.

    So if you have a mix of Genie and pre-Genie receivers, you should always boot up the pre-Genie boxes first to make sure they get first crack at the 13 available SWiM channels they can tune to. And then boot the Genie last as it may select from among any of the remaining SWiM tuner channels. Even if the pre-Genie receivers consume all the 13 tuner channels they can access.

    The problem is, as slice notes, I've never seen anyone report encountering this "alleged" 13 tuner limitation. No matter what the boot up sequence of the receivers. I myself have an HR54 Genie and 5 HR24s (and one C41W mini client which doesn't count of course) on a 5D2RB LNB. And I've never hit the 13 tuner limit even though the Genie is always the first to boot back up after a prolong power outage.

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    That’s good info too. Say I turn on a HR24 and nothing is recording, and I have not started ‘Doubleplay’. Does that only burn up one of the SWiM channels available until I decide to use both tuners, or are two always allocated for each HR24 automatically?
     
  11. HoTat2

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    The two SWiM tuner channels are always assigned.

    DP just activates the other tuner in the receiver to actually begin using and streaming data over its assigned SWiM channel and then allows you to toggle between the two tuners.

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  12. codespy

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    Roger that. Thanks.
     
  13. inkahauts

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    Sorry, tapatalk doesn’t show sig....

    I was after receiver count because of the deca limit. You can’t have more than 16 nodes in a system. You hit that exactly. That will give you two options for toeing the deca between the two dishes together.

    Two dishes should work for you fine, especially if you set the two rv ones to single tuner while at home. That would allow you to hit exactly 13 tuners on each dish with just the hr24s. Although I don’t think you need to. I think it’ll work either way but it will be interesting to see what your testing shows.

    I’d probably balance the HR24 with one more on the dish not being used by the hr54 and the c61k. use two eight way splitters, one for each dish. Or you can balance the HR24 exactly and put the client and hr54 on opposite dishes. (Really splitters)

    There’s two ways to bridge the deca between the two dishes. Either use a cck on one dish and the hr54 Ethernet on the other, or use some splitters with filters to combine the two. You have to use the hr54 Ethernet for internet connection if you go with the splitters because a cck would push you to 17 nodes. I’ve done both (splitters vs two clouds connected to say router) and haven’t noticed a difference between either way to combine two deca clouds.

    I’m sure you can make it work one way or the other, and worst case you could always have some units on the rblnb and the rest stay on the old Swim16. I’d move to all rblnb myself.
     
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    Bump-

    I picked up a 4 pack of RBLNB’s a couple weeks ago. Just checked my RV where I have not done the upgrade yet- Channel 578 comes in now, on a 5 year old non-RB LNB. On my HR’s, they took update 0xc8b this week and now it is live. I didn’t think that was possible with only a software update. Anyone else seeing it?
     
  15. slice1900

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    They've been moving some of the 119 mirrors from 99cr to 103ca recently.
     
  16. techguy88

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    @slice1900 codespy is getting the 103ca duplicates it is just when he lost the 5LNB he lost the proper 119 channels.

    @codespy They recently launched a 103ca duplicate of Playboy en Espanol on channel 578. If you open the guide and press the left arrow it will tell you which version you are receiving. Like in my guide it shows the channel name as "Playboy en Espanol 578 (103A)"

    Here are the following changes/additions:
    • 103CA - Standard HD transponder (The following are channels from 119 that are duplicated to 99CR. 103CA duplicates [edit] added 7/22/20 replacing the 99R duplicates.)
      • 511 - HBO Latino (SD only)
      • 578 - Playboy en Espanol
      • 9577 - Busch Satellite Network
    • New HD Channel Additions
      • 602 - TVG HD
     
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    Thanks, I guess the SW update was just a coincidence. I now see even on my 3D2RB home setup that I just revised 2 weeks ago from the legacy 5LNB, it’s using the 103A.

    I guess I acted too soon- I should’ve waited another couple weeks for the switch from 99cr to 103, but had no idea they were going to do that!

    I have 3 other brand new 3D2RB’s NIB for sale if anyone’s interested. :(
     
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    It would also be nice if it was in high def at other times, and not just later into the night like what has typically happened, so my wife says.....
     
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    The 103A versions replaced the 99R versions on 7/22/20 (I was wrong about the date added) and today was the first day I checked Edge Cutters in a while so I missed the 7/22/20 update :/
     
  20. codespy

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    Yea I missed that from Kyl416 too. Too much other stuff in life going on right now, not a lot of time to sit and read. Thanks for the input.
     
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