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Playlist not refreshing, MRV not working properly HELP!!

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by DrummerBoy523, Aug 9, 2010.

  1. DrummerBoy523

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    My setup: (has changed since post #1):

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    I'm now on 0x40d on the HR24 FYI.

    Here is a recap of the problem:

    With the BB DECA attached, the HR24, HR21 & H24 boxes lose connectivity to each other roughly every 24-48 hours. Basically, the UPL appears to have all the programs on it until it tries to play or refresh and then it goes away. If we try to play a recording remotely, we get data packet errors. On the H24, when pressing list, it just shows the To Do list for auto tune I believe.

    When the BB DECA is removed, it appears that these boxes stay connected and the UPL/MRV works w/o issue.

    I just added a TrendNEt Gigabit switch between the BB DECA and Router, not sure if this will help or not. Has not been 24 hours yet.

    Router Setup: NetGear WGR614v9
    • Router has UPnP turned OFF currently, but it doesn't seem to matter as I've tried it both ways.
    • DHCP on
    • All 3 DTV boxes have assigned IP addresses by MAC on the router

    Router 2: LinkSys WGR54G running DD-WRT as a Repeater Bridge
     
  2. BudShark

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    Have you tried the static IPs on the receivers yet?

    I'd let the TrendNet test run until failure (don't mix changes)
    The next step would be to statically IP the DirecTV receivers IMO and run that until failure.

    Since you have an HR24 have you done the COAX tests and posted your results? I haven't seen it in this thread.

    Here's the process from VOS:
    Take the results and publish them in this thread if you don't already have them.
     
  3. HoTat2

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    I take it the results of your insertion of the ethernet switch made no difference?

    Not to belabor the point DrummerBoy523, and if you want to continue to struggle with getting DHCP to work on the DirecTV receivers is your personal choice.

    But did you at least ever try to simply use static IPs for the DirecTV boxes and leave all else on the home network to DHCP on a higher starting address range as I suggested?

    I don't recall you posting you ever tried this. It just might be the best solution for your finicky (for MRV handling anyway) router.
     
  4. veryoldschool

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    OK, this has nothing to do with the problem, "but" since RF is my thing and the system layout "bugs me", why are there two splitters?

    I'd have done this [the PI is on the wrong splitter port I know but the drawing was simpler]:

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  5. BAHitman

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    Does the dell latitude have both wired and wireless access to the network?
     
  6. DrummerBoy523

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    On the router, I originaly reserved IPs for the DTV boxes and then rebooted the boxes so that they get those IPs. If I change the DHCP settings to make the starting address higher, will the D* boxes keep those IPs? Or do I need to physically type in the addresses first?

    Yes, I posted the results somewhere, just can't find them. Here they are again:

    0 1 2
    239 241 245
    244 244 253
    243 252 242

    0 DOWNSTAIRS N/A
    1 BEDROOM 31
    2 NODE-XX 36

    I have only had the switch on for less than 24 hours, so I need to leave it on for awhile to see if that matters or not.


    See above..
     
  7. DrummerBoy523

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    not at the same time - but occasionally I take it out to the deck. why?
     
  8. BAHitman

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    To setup static addressess, you will need to manually enter all of the network details into each DVR. and then you should remove the reservations from the router. you could leave them, but it's better to change the scope to start at a number higher than the higest IP that you have set static.


    for example of you set your DVR's to 192.168.1.10, 11, and 12, you would at the least want your router to start at 13.

    as for the question on the latitude having wired and wireless active at the same time. I have seen issues in some software that gets confused when you have 2 network adapters connected to the same network. it could be that when it sees traffic come in on one adapter, it repeats it to the other. and then there's always the possability that there is a bridged connection, that would definateley cause a flood. it would be evident as the activity lights on all of your equipment would flash non-stop.

    it's just another thing to check on...
     
  9. BudShark

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    I agree with you 100% on the runtime with the switch. Let that play out for a while.

    When it comes to static IP - since you know the range of the DHCP address - what you would do is assign something outside that range to each DVR - and then set them on the DVRs themselves under the advanced network setup.

    So if your DHCP range is x.x.x.10-50, you would set your HR24 to .51, the HR21 to .52, and the H24 to .53.

    If we get to that point we can put the exact steps and settings in if it doesn't make sense. The only point of question would be the DNS and Gateway settings. I would on your laptop, open a command prompt and type ipconfig /all. You can just steal the Default Gateway and DNS from there (I think somebody posted the OpenDNS address a bit ago if you want to use those).
     
  10. DrummerBoy523

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    Hard to explain, but the only way to explain is describe our original setup, then explain the new setup.

    Originally, the dish was next to where the 2nd 4 way splitter is. We had a zinwell there and one of the drops went up into the attic and down to our guestroom on the other side of the house.

    When we moved the dish to the other side of the house due to signal issues, the point where the cable entered the attic was right next to the drop down to the guest bedroom. So, instead of running the cable all the way across the attic and down to the splitter, he spliced it and put the PI & Splitter up in the attic and then ran the guest bedroom drop off out #3, and attached the other spliced in to the splitter out #2. The other end of this cable is now the input to the 2nd 4-way splitter which feeds the rest of the house at the original entry point to the house. Hope that makes sense.

    I've modified the setup slightly to show what is in the attic:

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  11. DrummerBoy523

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    I can do that. my router is just 192.168.1.1 gateway and the subnet is the typical 255.255.255.0 stuff. I get the DNS automatically from my ISP.

    I'll do what you are suggesting now that the 3 year old is taking a nap I can use the TVs again :)
     
  12. veryoldschool

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    That makes more sense and is somewhere similar to my setup, though I use a 2-way there.
     
  13. DrummerBoy523

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    DTV boxes have now been assigned IPs at the box.

    192.168.1.101, 102, 103.

    My DHCP range is 3-100.

    What about UPnP? Right now it is off. I've tried both ways. Thoughts?
     
  14. BAHitman

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    unless you need it for something leave it off. your network is more secure that way.
     
  15. DrummerBoy523

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    OK. Now we wait....
     
  16. BudShark

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    and the Jeopardy theme song plays in all our heads... ;)
     
  17. BAHitman

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    you just HAD to go there... :D

    One other option might be to switch the DD-WRT box for the netgear router, assuming you are using a router and not an AP, and see if that makes a difference...

    one other point where you definately have a bottleneck is the bridging of the wireless. when you bridge a wireless network, and the other end is also acting as an access point, (repeater mode), you are eff ectively halving your bandwith. think of it like a conversation. if you are talking to me, then we can have an efficient conversation, but if you have to tell someone who has to tell me, you will take 2x as long to have the same conversation. If you could get ethernet to that location of the repeater, you will be doing your network a huge favor trafficwise
     
  18. DrummerBoy523

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    I'd love to get cat5 upstairs, but it aint gonna happen in this house, so that is the purpose of the repeater. I could also just move the DDWRT downstairs and tweak the radio a bit - that is the only reason I even have the repeater upstairs because our IBM laptop has a hard time getting the signal from the NetGear downstairs - drops a lot. I understand the loss of bandwidth, but I have to keep the wifey happy too...:D
     
  19. av8rdude

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    I have moved from coax to ethernet and have the exact same issues as Drummerboy on both setups.

    I have discovered the only boxes that need rebooting are the HR24's. The H24 will see the UPL after they are rebooted.

    I have router assigned static IPs and a switch, also.

    I look forward to Drummerboy finding a solution because I'm confident we have the exact same issue.

    Cheers,
    Scott
     
  20. HoTat2

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    But have you actually tried non-DHCP static IPs on the DirecTV receivers yet as we instructed Drumerboy to do? This is different from "router assigned static IPs" which is also called "IP reservation" and still uses DHCP.
     

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