Playstation Vue - the best streaming alternative to cable/satellite

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  1. Jun 29, 2016 #81 of 138
    am7crew

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    I tried the service last week and its really great. I use it on roku3 and the PQ is great. I am very very seriously considering dropping dish for PSvue + HBO Now.
     
  2. Jun 30, 2016 #82 of 138
    msm96wolf

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    I contacted the Raleigh stations have not heard back from WRAL and FOX50, no big surprise. WNCN the NBC affiliate did reply back with a positive comment. "[SIZE=12pt]That's a great question. And it's something we will investigate. We have a few Playstation Vue customers in the newsroom and have brought up the same question."[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=12pt]Basically told them, prefered their news over WTVD but I am watching WTVD on the PSVUE. It seems like the are missing a great market opportunity.[/SIZE]
     
  3. Jul 7, 2016 #83 of 138
    phrelin

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    I received an email from Roku tonight announcing the availability of Playstation Vue:

    [​IMG]
     
  4. Jul 7, 2016 #84 of 138
    Art7220

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    Hmm, same channels as everyone else. Guess this'll have to do until the Canadian cable / sats come up with an online package. www.rokuguide.com/channels/canadatv won me over.
     
  5. Jul 8, 2016 #85 of 138
    jerrylove56

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    We are currently in the 7-day trial on two differnt types of devices.
    OBSERVATIONS:
    Roku3 and Stick:
    Will not work properly. Even after intense troubleshooting with Roku, the devices will not properly play content. (16 mbps speed verifed by Roku) When it did respond it took at least 2 minutes or longer to respond to play function. The picture was clear and not buffering.

    FireTV Boxes: (1-Wifi) - 1-Ethernet
    Both played flawlessly. The pictures were clear and HD quality. My only complaint was the lack of certain popular channels (NFL, MLB, Lifetime and A&E primarly). Also getting use to the FireTV remote fuctions has been somewhat clunky.

    If the quality remains this high (with the Fire boxes) we will cut off Directv. We are viewing the Elite package and actual have the programming we want instead of DTV - Select Package which contains no sports but lots of junk channels.

    From a cost perspective: DTV - Select is $52.00 + $25.00 (Tech fee) + $21.00 (extra receivers) + Taxes = @ $100 a month vs
    $45.00 for PSV. This would save us more than $50 a month. ($600 plus for the year) Yeah I can see getting a couple of new fishing rods and reels out of this.
     
  6. Jul 8, 2016 #86 of 138
    msm96wolf

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    I have to say, I am about ready to go back to Fire Box. The ROKU 3 has been a huge disappointment. The lack of Guide, Playback from Start for DVR live programming has been frustrating. I am checking my receipt to make sure I have not missed my 15 day return window. With Prime Days coming up, I think a new fire box will be ordered.
     
  7. Jul 8, 2016 #87 of 138
    phrelin

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    Hmmm. Well, I haven't tried the Vue on my Roku 3. A few months ago, someone with some tech knowledge posted on a Vue site thread:

    Based on comments here it appears "the bloat and poor design" weren't "worked out before implementation on the Roku platform." While I'm getting used to my Roku 3, I have to admit that I'm not quite sure how well apps with true multi-channel live services will perform. As my many years of satellite TV experience have taught me, you have the problem going backwards into the feed of determining is it your receiver/dvr, your dish and its switching system, a storm blocking your dish from receiving the signal, the satellite itself, a storm blocking the uplink in wherever, a problem with the uplink from the company, a problem with the feed to the company from the TV station, a problem at the TV station, a problem between the network and the TV station, etc.

    With streaming, now I have the problem going backwards into the feed of determining is it the Roku device, is it my router, is it my modem, is it my individual service from Comcast, is it a problem with the local Comcast system, is it a problem with the internet, is it a problem at the source server, etc.

    It's a tough call for Roku as the risk is if they wait too long to implement something like Vue, they'll lose out when people switch to other boxes. I they initiate something like Vue before it's ready, they'll lose out when people switch to other boxes.

    Since my target for "cutting the cord" is May 2017 based upon redwood tree growth, I assume things in the streaming arena will continue to get better over time.
     
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  8. Oct 17, 2016 #88 of 138
    camo

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    I have the Roku 4 works like a charm but miss not having any guide. Ordered FireTv finally so everyone can expect a Roku Vue guide update soon. :)
     
  9. Oct 18, 2016 #89 of 138
    Rich

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    I was gonna buy the Roku Ultra, but I keep reading about the new ATV5 that should be out soon. I had no luck with two Roku 4s and their inability to work with my Samsung 4K TV. I might give the Ultra a shot, anything to get Amazon on a streamer...I'm sick of using the UI on my TV, it's just too hard to navigate using the built in app.

    The problem I had with the Roku 4s was I lost all 4K content when I had it hooked up to my Sammy JS8500. I never heard of a workaround that would solve that issue. I lost the 4K content on AP and NF. Anybody out there have a Sammy 4K and a Roku 4 that works correctly? I might take the plunge and buy the Ultra if I can get some guidance concerning that 4K issue. Both Roku 4s worked correctly on my Panny plasmas, so I have concluded the issue was caused by some incompatibility issue between the Roku 4s and the Sammy 4K. And assistance would be greatly appreciated.

    A few months ago I complained about the Roku 4s remote, I'm glad to see they moved the Select button to the center of the arrows on top of the remote.

    Rich
     
  10. Oct 18, 2016 #90 of 138
    camo

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    Rich you may know already the HDMI input for the Roku4 needs to be HDCP 2.2 for Ultra 4K to work. On the Sony you need to turn this feature on for whatever HDMI the Roku uses. All HDMI inputs are standard from factory.

    As far as the newer Roku models I wouldn't think any work different than the current Roku4 as far as connection goes.

    BTW changed plans and cancelled the FireTV box.
     
  11. Oct 18, 2016 #91 of 138
    Rich

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    The Roku 4s I had...I never checked that setting. I'm gonna buy the Roku Ultra and see how that works. There were many mentions of Samsung 4K TVs having the same problems I had when the Roku 4 came out. I gave up on it pretty quickly at the time. I'll be back with how I do with the Ultra. Naturally, I would buy the one brand of 4K TVs that has problems with compatibility.

    I've had problems with the newest iteration of the FTV, too. The last box I got had pixellation problems with NF. I've got 3 FTV boxes, the older ones. Not thrilled with the way they handle AP, either. Never got that far with the newest FTV box. My understanding is the newest FTV boxes will appear before Xmas as will the newest ATV box.

    Rich
     
  12. Nov 1, 2016 #92 of 138
    camo

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    Vue app is now available on Sony TV's. It includes a guide and seems to work good. About time, it really had me scratching my head why the streaming service they offered needed additional hardware.
     
  13. Nov 17, 2016 #93 of 138
    austen0316

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    Vue is now available on the Apple TV (4th Gen only)
     
  14. Feb 9, 2017 #94 of 138
    MadMac

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    Presently trying Vue on an older Roku and have been impressed so far, especially with the "mirroring" for local news that's not on Vue. We're not huge TV watchers here (news, Jeopardy, Wheel, soccer and wrestling), so can get everything we want for about a third of the cost. I can see Direct going away here once my commitment is up in a month or so.
     
  15. Feb 9, 2017 #95 of 138
    mjwagner

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    The PSVue interface on Roku devices needs work. The lack of a guide and the inability to "see" what you are FFing thru using the DVR made me switch to FireTV devices. The interface and overall experience using PSVue on the FireTV vs Roku is much better.
     
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  16. Feb 9, 2017 #96 of 138
    MadMac

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    Thanks! I'm purely trying it out just now, but will certainly keep that in mind when/if I switch.
     
  17. Feb 10, 2017 #97 of 138
    camo

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    If you have Amazon Prime not only does Firetv box have the PSVUE guide but free music included with Prime account has a nice streaming UI showing words to songs. I've actually dumped Netflix now and stream Prime material exclusive which is just as good maybe better than Netflix with lots of 4K and exclusive content.
     
  18. Feb 10, 2017 #98 of 138
    chevyguy559

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    I like that feature too....sometimes use it more than Pandora on my FireTV's and have come away from some songs laughing to myself that I had the lyrics totally wrong LOL
     
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  19. Feb 11, 2017 #99 of 138
    MadMac

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    Watching Premier League via the NBC Sports app - only criticism is that the picture looks a bit "filmy", like watching in the cinema. Anyone else noticed this? I'm presuming it's a limitation of the old Roku.
     
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    All of the streams available from the NBC Sports App are 30 frames per second.

    Broadcast TV is either 1080i or 720p. 1080i is interlaced at a rate of 60 fields per second, but it takes 2 fields to render a full frame. (think even & odd lines on your TV) 720p sends a full frame every 60 seconds. In either case, every 1/60th of a second there is a change in picture on your screen. (although interlacing can produce artifacts during fast motion because of the half update)

    Quite a bit of online streaming video, however, is progressive but at only 30 frames per second. So rather than your screen updating every 1/60th of a second, it's every 1/30th of a second. That extra delay causes noticeable jerkiness on things like scrolling text at the bottom of news screens, or panning shots for sports.

    It's one of the big reasons people like Vue over Sling - while all of Sling's streams are 30 frames per second, Vue is distributing full 60 fps video for their channels. (provided you have a device that supports the 60fps feeds, that is)
     

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