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Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by jwd45244, Sep 15, 2007.
Does Closed Captioning require more keystrokes than any other feature in the HR20?
I can't think of any routinely-used feature that uses more keystrokes. It's obvious the D* product design folks didn't envision viewers wanting to use this as a togglable feature, but they were wrong to assume that.
That being said, it's a mistake that's so easy to rectify, however. Come on, D*! /steve
I also found it interesting and immediately recognized it as a UI/Usability design flaw when I first tried to use the CC option on my HR-20. CC should always be a toggle-able feature in the fewest steps possible. IMHO it is much more important than having a top-level Audio Options item.
When they designed the remote control to not have a dedicated CC button, they sealed the fate of the UI that a CC option would be required as a high-level menu item.
Having to go through a dozen menu operations to get there is just frustrating.
Just Add an option that CC will turn on when TV is muted. Bam ,done,end of story.
I stay up later than my wife and she doesnt want sound so CC is the best alternative.
That would be fine as an option. But it doesn't solve the problem.
There are times when I want sound and CC, such as when I'm using CC to decipher song lyrics.
There are times I use MUTE to help me avoid a spoiler, such as when I'm recording 2 games are selecting one from the list.
We still need a convenient CC toggle, although an option MUTE = CC ON would be a good addition.
The MUTE "IR CODE" varies, depending on what TV or audio receiver you are trying to mute. The HR20 has no way of sensing a "MUTE" command, since it is intended for another device. /steve
Do you want a 1 or 2 button CC option???
If so then this thread has to be keeped alive so that everybody that see's this thread has an oppurtunity to ask for this CC option..........it's already been noted that D* is aware of this thread and watch it daily!!!!!!
Absolutely - the more voices added to this thread to request quick access to CC, the better.
I agree that "quick access" is sorely needed. A 2-button solution would be fine. The sooner, the better!
when are they going to do it? I need it NOW
2 Things about CC
1. Yes I want it a simple solution to turn on, one or 2 button pushes.
2. Most importantly I want it to work and I find it still does not perform as well as any other unit I have. Garbled words mostly.
Amen to #1. Amen to #2....there are several threads that have recent comments on garbled and misplaced CC. Try this. On a program that has bad garbled CC and part Spanish CC, after watching it, "keep it", go back to the beginning and then re-watch it for awhile again. In at least half to 2/3's of my re-watched MPEG4 HD programs the CC is no longer garbled or has Spanish in it? It's near perfect the 2nd time but placement is still off. Now how can that be if it's the same recording??
I use CC all the time - Its a one button on my TV - But that does NOT work with DTV. Make it a 1 button option!!!!
I agree, I would like it to be a quick option.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned is my wife's biggest complaint. The HR20 does not show the CC while fast forwarding. She would tape her soaps and get through one of them in about 15 minutes using this method on the Tivo.
add me to the list one button CC please
Here are three CC toggles I could live with:
Option 1: Assign CC's to the YELLOW AUDIO SAP button.
If there is no SAP on the current program: One YELLOW BUTTON click would turn CC's ON or OFF, depending on the current state of CC.
If there is SAP, then each click would be: CC/ON or OFF (depending on current state), SAP ON or OFF (depending on current state), SAP CC/ON or OFF (if applicable). The button should "time out" so that after a few seconds, clicking the YELLOW button restarts the cycle from the beginning.
So one click of the YELLOW BUTTON toggles CCs on or off, no matter what the SAP availability is for a particular program. It would now take one extra-click to enable SAP, however.
Option 2: Use the DOWN ARROW to toggle CC's ON/OFF, since it's currently unused during RECORDING playback or LIVE TV. If someone hits it accidentally, it's easy enough to hit it again.
Option 3: Put either "CC ON" or "CC OFF" on the first page of the QUICK menu, depending on current CC state.
I'll take either one of the options!!!