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Poor Whole Home networking

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by KSbugeater, Aug 20, 2012.

  1. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    Let me make sure I'm reading this correctly.
    You're suggesting if the SWiM PI isn't getting enough power, that this will have some effect on the DECA networking?
    If this is what you're trying to say, it makes no sense, since the SWiM has nothing to do with the DECA.

    If this wasn't what you were trying to say, please add more.
     
  2. ndole

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    Except that you can have a p2p DECA network without any switch involved. So the 'powurdup' status of the switch has nothing to do with DECA connectivity :lol:
     
  3. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    So you mean if my engine starts running rough, I shouldn't check the spare tire to see if it has enough air? :confused:
     
  4. ndole

    ndole Problem Solver

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    No, but running a output pressure test on the tailpipe using the oral wrench is highly recommended! :)
     
  5. veryoldschool

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    BTW: your 2P2 networking does have a master, but maybe a moderator would be a better name for the DECA node this is it.
     
  6. Tisby

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    If the PI isn't getting enough, then the switch (8 or 16) also isn't getting enough. The ability of the DECA network to operate on the coax is facilitated by the switch working correctly (having the correct voltage). It's not a frequent issue for our office (we ATTEMPT to educate the customer on the PI) but it does happen from time to time. Customer plugs in more things, rare new tech, etc. I have seen it cause issues, which is why I'm suggesting it gets double checked.
     
  7. veryoldschool

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    There simply is no truth or factual basis to this.
    DECA works without a SWiM. You can use it or MoCa on an empty coax with DECAs on either end.
    The SWM8 & SWiMLNB have an internal bandstop filter blocking the DECA from the SWiM completely.
    The SWiM-16 has the BSFs too, but also has a crossover between the two sections of the SWiM.

    There is ZERO interaction between SWiM & DECA. NONE!
     
  8. ndole

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    I wonder if it issues warnings to the other DECA nodes when they get out of hand :rolling:
     
  9. ndole

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    My favorite thing IN THE WORLD (sarcasm) is trying to convince a tech that a DECA node doesn't consume a SWiM Channel.
     
  10. veryoldschool

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    That would go right next to: You must use an 8-way splitter to be able to use all eight tuners.
     
  11. Tisby

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    That's almost as much fun as explaining that you don't need an 8-way splitter with 4 DVRs! EDIT: VOS beat me to it!

    As far as the PI, I cannot deny what I have seen in the field. I don't understand why it happens, but it does. It is worth checking to see how that PI is plugged in.
     
  12. veryoldschool

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    I wouldn't give you any grief over this, and a five min check is worth it.
    "Now" if it did do anything, it would cause me to chase down what it was doing, which I'd spend hours to find the cause, because it "shouldn't" have any affect. What affect was happening would be more interesting to me to find, than fixing it.
     
  13. ndole

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    I can see your argument if you were saying that you've seen intermittent 771A because of what you're describing.
    I've personally witnessed a crappy/overloaded power strip and extension cord cause that issue.
    But there's simply no reason for that to have anything to do with this issue.
     
  14. veryoldschool

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    Some are just "classics" :lol:

    Have you ever hear the one:

    When the DECA & SWiM-16 first came out, there was an installer who swore you needed to use BSFs on the coax between the LNB and the -16.
    "He swore" they had to be there and that was why it wasn't working.
    The customer relented and let him install them. Yep, lost some of the Ka-lo SAT/TPs.
     
  15. ndole

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    I swear that there are some DISH agents that sneak into D* warehouses and spread this sort of misinformation :lol:

    As far as the SWiM16 thing, he must have done it because the legacy LNB didn't have a green label :nono:
     
  16. veryoldschool

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    Do you remember:

    The one where there was a very long coax run and DECA didn't work well. The poster wanted to use an SWiM amp. Now the receiver didn't have any SAT signal issues, but the poster was going to get and use that amp even if it killed him.
    Long before the ordered amp came, he finally posted a picture of the splitter behind another DVR, where the BB DECA was. The non green 2-way was installed backwards. :eek2:
    Turned it around and the DECA worked fine. :lol:
     
  17. KSbugeater

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    As a matter of fact, the SWM PI is plugged into a power strip. However, this has always been the case, and it's never given me a problem.

    Update on the WH without the router DECA: smooth sailing ended and units are dropping off the network as before. Should I move the SWM PI to the line with the HR22 and leave the HR24 with a solid lead from the splitter?
     
  18. ndole

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    That was pretty good. As my Grandpa always says, "It costs money to go to school". :lol:
     
  19. veryoldschool

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    You can shoot in the dark, or leave us in the dark, or give us a fairly accurate layout of your system.
    It would also help to know what the 24 shows for losses between your nodes. This is on the first coax test screen, before you test the MESH rates.
     
  20. Shades228

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    Wasn't he the one that had contacted sonora to build this huge system with amps and polarity lockers?
     

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