Possible NBC Sports Chicago dispute (DirecTV/AT&T TV Now/U-Verse TV)

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  1. glrush

    glrush Cool Member/Supporter DBSTalk Gold Club

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    I live in the Cedar Rapids DMA but we don't have Mediacom or ImOn like they do in CR. I just found it interesting that it appears it appears that my co-op decided that they couldn't (or wouldn't) pay for 2 RSN's. As you said, the Cubbies are very popular in Iowa and not having Cubs baseball would be a pretty big deal for some.
     
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  2. TV_Guy

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    They would definitely need an alternate feed that does not include games or even footage of games other than pre and post game shows. YES and NESN offer national feeds. MLB.TV owns rights to all out of market games except those sold to Fox and ESPN.
     
  3. techguy88

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    I highly doubt the MLB will allow the Cubs channel to be carried nationally with MLB games it devalues MLB Extra Innings. The most likely scenario is Sinclair is using the collective power of all their local O&O stations to bundle the rights to carry the Cubs channel in the Chicago market. To Sinclair it doesn't matter if a viewer in NV or WV can get their local station with a big provider as long as they get the provider like Spectrum, Dish, AT&T and Comcast to carry the Cubs channel in Chicago.

    They are most likely doing this to smaller providers as well and in the case of the co-op @glrush mentioned they probably figured it was to risky to lose the Sinclair local station and not have at least the Cubs versus going without NBC Sports Chicago so they dropped NBC Sports Chicago since they probably figured it would cause the less uproar and it is a single channel not part of a bundle.
     
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  4. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator

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    I assume that there will be more on the Cubs channel than the games. Only the games would need to be blacked out for out of market viewers. I expect that Sinclair believes that their non-game content is compelling enough that it should be seen nationwide (or at least paid for by a nationwide audience, whether they watch or not). It would be a "out of market" rate, but even 10c or 50c per out of market subscriber can add up. In market rates would be much higher.

    Other than money (how much to pay), channel placement is another issue that keeps channels from being carried. YES' demand that they be in the base package kept them off of DISH (all RSNs are relegated to the second tier in market). After the initial complaints about not carrying the channel died down the market has accepted the fact that YES isn't on that service. The same applies to the Dodgers carriage ... most people accept that DIRECTV and DISH will "never" have that channel, and the only ways to see a game will be out of market on another channel, on a national channel, or on another provider. Pac-12 on DIRECTV fits the same level of acceptance. "It isn't carried. Enough said."

    Altitude isn't carried by the three major carriers. A good thing that all three are struggling to get the channel to make a good offer - it makes the practice of playing one carrier off of the others in a rotation more difficult. And it make it obvious that the channel provider, not the carriers, are the problem. NBC Sports Chicago is putting themselves in a similar position. DISH subscribers are not as mad about losing the channel as they could be knowing that DIRECTV could lose the channel at any moment. It is annoying that DIRECTV manage to get an extension ... but no one except NBC and AT&T know how much that extension will cost.
     
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  6. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator

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    It is reported that Fox charged less than $2 per month for their cable sports channels (FS1, FS2, Big Ten) in 2018. The NFL Network charged $1.39. "Relatively modest" is only true when comparing to the four channel (ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, SEC Network) ESPN package (about $9). Or to the obscene suggested price of $6 for a one team channel.

    NBC Sports Chicago collected $4.39 per subscriber in 2018 and has now lost a major team. Anyone want to bet that they are lowering their price? The high cost of NBC Sports Chicago is the reason why DIRECTV charges an RSN fee in areas where NBC Sports Chicago is the only RSN. DIRECTV charges $7.13 in my area with NBC Sports Chicago being the only RSN in Choice (some of that fee could be for Big Ten Network).

    So instead of paying NBCSC $4.39 DIRECTV should pay NBCSC $5 (wild ass guess) and Sinclair $4? That sounds reasonable (not).
     
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  7. TV_Guy

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    That's a bargain compared to NY where they pay YES, SNY and MSG well over $16. Obviously not sustainable in the present environment. Dish was probably ahead of their time when they abandoned all NY RSNs years ago.
     
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  8. slice1900

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    Sinclair has far far more leverage to push the Cubs channel than TW did for the Dodgers channel. The lesson they learned wasn't "don't charge a ton for it" but "have enough other stuff that is bargained for along with it that providers can't afford to say no".

    In hindsight I'm kind of surprised that no one had previously thought to pair RSNs with locals. It is the perfect formula to soak the customer without cable/satellite companies being able to walk away like everyone did from the Dodgers channel.
     
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  9. glrush

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  10. JoeTheDragon

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    ESPN DID that with ABC
    and NBC can try it with there RSN's now
     
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  11. zippyfrog

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    It appears that a long term deal was reached as NBC Sports Chicago – Stay in the Game now lists all the AT&T products on their page.
     

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