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Postal Service to end Saturday mail delivery in bid to cut costs

Discussion in 'The OT' started by fluffybear, Feb 6, 2013.

  1. Feb 7, 2013 #61 of 114
    Hoosier205

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    Not without Congressional approval.
     
  2. Feb 7, 2013 #62 of 114
    gregsgoatfarm

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    No, I'm saying that a part-time/sub will not know what parcels should be forwarded because the customer has moved, or what customers are having their mail held because they are on vacation. There's a "professional" letter carrier in my office who is now vice-president of our union local. He is the worst carrier I have ever encountered. Lowest common denominator. Makes me very sad. But I digress. I for one am not looking forward to Monday delivery days. And some parcels (small light ones) can be first class mail.
     
  3. Feb 7, 2013 #63 of 114
    dpeters11

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    Ok, 80 years was slightly wrong. But everything I'm seeing says that in 2006 the law was passed requiring 75 years funding in 10. Is this incorrect?
     
  4. Feb 7, 2013 #64 of 114
    James Long

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    I can't find the article I read yesterday, but from what I recall the 75 years was a budgetary window. I believe the goal is that by the end of the 10 years the plan is fully funded ... in essence, if the USPS ceased to function in 2016 all of their obligations to past, present and potential employees up to the date they ceased (in 2016) would be in the fund.

    The USPS were operating on a pay as you go plan ... with their obligations paid for out of current receipts. And while they were profitable when Congress passed the legislation requiring them to fully fund their future, the past few years have shown a marked decline in mail volume. The current lack of profitability at USPS goes well beyond the request of Congress to fund their obligations.

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    Note how income stayed just ahead of expenses most years.

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    Note the drastic drop in total mail volume.

    The past few years have illustrated just how tenuous the "pay as you go" plan can be. And while other major employers are not required by Congress to fully fund their obligations the obligations of other employers are not backed by Congress.

    Edit: Here is the article -
    http://www.cnbc.com/id/45018432/The_Truth_About_The_Post_Office039s_Financial_Mess
     
  5. Feb 8, 2013 #65 of 114
    dpeters11

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    klang

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    Are consumers really looking for same day delivery from Amazon, with an added fee I assume? If I really need something today I'll stop at Best Buy or Home Depot.

    We already get most smaller items from Amazon via USPS.
     
  7. Feb 8, 2013 #67 of 114
    fluffybear

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    With the way things are progressing, you bet! Sadly, there are to many people out there who would rather pay an extra $20 or so just so they don't have to put on their pants and get off the couch...
     
  8. Feb 8, 2013 #68 of 114
    Stewart Vernon

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    Exactly what I was thinking... what if suddenly most people just didn't get mail on Saturdays. In recent weeks I have had 1-2 days a week where I got no mail at all, not even junk mail... so not getting mail on a Saturday would not raise any flags.

    So... without congressional approval... how would congress really impose any sanctions IF the USPS does this:

    1. Still deliver packages on Saturday as planned.
    2. Stop sorting non-package mail on Friday.

    Thus... there will be no mail other than packages ready to go out the door on Saturday... and they will be in compliance with Saturday delivery of the items that they did sort for delivery.

    Done and done.
     
  9. Mar 21, 2013 #69 of 114
    fluffybear

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    From Fox News:

     
  10. Mar 22, 2013 #70 of 114
    djlong

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    I couldn't believe this when I read it. I sense a pattern here. Congress demands services be provided then refuses to legislate a way to pay for them.
     
  11. Mar 22, 2013 #71 of 114
    phrelin

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    The simplest thing to do would be to charge $1 for a first class stamp and require all election advertising material to be sent first class.
     
  12. Mar 22, 2013 #72 of 114
    yosoyellobo

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    I buy that.
     
  13. Mar 22, 2013 #73 of 114
    Stewart Vernon

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    Yeah, that seems weird to me too.
     
  14. Mar 23, 2013 #74 of 114
    MysteryMan

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    Like I've said before, Congress is the opposite of Progress.
     
  15. Mar 23, 2013 #75 of 114
    fluffybear

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    Just as long as we can include pre-sort advertisements as well. I throw out at least 3 to 4 pieces a day
     
  16. Mar 24, 2013 #76 of 114
    phrelin

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    I thought pre-sort ads was a service provided by the Post Office so I could check my recycling can every day but Sunday, and now maybe Saturday.:sure:
     
  17. Mar 25, 2013 #77 of 114
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    I completely believe it. Who else is better at requiring benefits that we don't have the money to pay for than congress?
     
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    djlong

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    If you're talking about the annual federal deficit, you're a bit off.

    A trillion dollar deficit split amongst 300 million people is something over $3,000 for every man, woman and child.
     
  20. Mar 26, 2013 #80 of 114
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    I was referring to the 16 Billion USPS deficit. I guess 16 Billion is small change when you look at the big picture.
     

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