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Pre-wired home with cat 5 issue

Discussion in 'Tech Talk - Gadgets, Gizmos and Technology' started by rick4464, Aug 11, 2013.

  1. rick4464

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    I eventually plan on bringing them into the house when I have the $$ for someone who can pull them in. Since the phone lines enter the house at the same point as electrical, I just don't want to mess with zapping myself with the big line. Once I get them inside, I'm comfortable with running them into a main room or just paying someone to do it.

    The builder gave me the option to pay and have them meet in a central location. I didn't go with that choice since it was extra and was led to believe that if I wasn't adding anything special to the lines, the home should still be able to use the lines as a network.

    To make sure, this is what I'm looking for, correct??

    http://www.homedepot.com/p/Leviton-Structured-Media-6-Port-Cat5e-Voice-and-Data-Stand-Alone-Module-with-Bracket-R00-47605-CB5/100662465#.UghNbZKTjSg

    Went with HD since the local electronics places only had powered switches and nothing like the patch panel. I want to put it into the Telco box outside and it seems to fit with some modifications to the items inside and it is pretty weather tight so water shouldn't be an issue. I don't need to use the jacks, just use the 110 connectors and that's it?
     
  2. peds48

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    Yup, that will work
     
  3. rick4464

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    Not sure if I did something wrong but not getting the results I expected. Connected everything properly, checked and double checked the connections at the patch panel and at the wall. Not getting any connection from wall A (computer) to wall B (router/modem). Anything in particular to look for or make sure I did?
     
  4. peds48

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    Well you need to run a line from your router to the patch panel and make sure to connect it to the right wire "wall"
     
  5. rick4464

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    I may not have understood that part until now. I thought the panel was connecting the wires together so the signal comes across to each other. Knowing that, if I have the wire coming in from the router to the panel via RJ45, will it connect all of the other wires connected via 110? If that would work, what is the best way to find the correct wire going to that wall?
     
  6. peds48

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    No you need dedicated lines from the router to the patch panel. in order to find which wire goes where, you need to use the "trail and error" method.
     
  7. rick4464

    rick4464 New Member

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    But can the dedicated line connect to any one of the jacks and link all of the other wires wired into the panel or does a dedicated wire have to go into each jack for all of them to work?
     
  8. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    You are drawing deeper and deeper :) ; it's time to ask some local guy for help, he will bring cable tester with a tone generator ...
     
  9. houskamp

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    one line per port on router/switch..
     
  10. dennisj00

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    I think there's a misunderstanding about the patch panel wiring and it's use.
     
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    But can the dedicated line connect to any one of the jacks and link all of the other wires wired into the panel or does a dedicated wire have to go into each jack for all of them to work?
    so if you need three lines active, you need three lines from your router to the patch panel


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  12. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    it would be beneficial for TS to take his time, get initial knowledge about network wiring from books, Internet, etc

    but play 'ping-pong' with half-baked questions-answers will not give him proper picture what must be inside of HIS knowledge bucket
     
  13. houskamp

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    yep..
     
  14. rick4464

    rick4464 New Member

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    I am familiar and comfortable with the wiring part, but I have never used a patch panel so I didn't know the use or limitations and the explanations here were great. Once I understood the line to the router, the rest made sense to me. I preferred to have all of the lines working together, but if I can only have one of the wall jacks working for now, so be it. I will have them moved in once I get situated better and have more time and $$ to get it done.

    Everything is working now for what I can do and the help is appreciated.
     
  15. rick4464

    rick4464 New Member

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    This is exactly what the issue was.
     
  16. P Smith

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    I don't see what it could be simpler than the wires and patch panel... perhaps having deal with it for many years it become too familiar
    [​IMG]..
     
  17. peds48

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    I am familiar and comfortable with the wiring part, but I have never used a patch panel so I didn't know the use or limitations and the explanations here were great. Once I understood the line to the router, the rest made sense to me. I preferred to have all of the lines working together, but if I can only have one of the wall jacks working for now, so be it. I will have them moved in once I get situated better and have more time and $$ to get it done.

    Everything is working now for what I can do and the help is appreciated.
    The good thing about patch panels is now those wires can handle phone or network depending what you connect to the panel. This is (was) how it should have been done from the get go, but inside....


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    PoE patch panels are the exception and not the norm. So the statement that patch panels don't have a powered component can be taken to be generally true. In the various enterprise/campus networks I've been involved with or seen, I've never come across a single PoE patch panel.

    In addition, going with a PoE patch panel would be significant problem when it comes time to upgrade. PoE (802.3af) is the norm now, but more and more networks are requiring PoE+(802.3at). If you had a PoE patch panel, you would be faced with a significant upgrade issue as it would not be a simple rip and replace. You'll first have to source a PoE+ capable patch panel and then deal with the labor involved in having to repunch down all the LAN drops. Versus just unplugging the patch cables to a PoE enabled switch and inserting the new PoE+ capable switch.
     
  20. P Smith

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    I'm pretty sure TS will get headache after reading posts here - the his target blurring and fading thanks to extensive knowledge and broad experience of posting members :)
     

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