Press Release - DISH Introduces Hopper and Joey

Discussion in 'Hopper System Support Forum' started by Jason Nipp, Jan 9, 2012.

  1. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    That would hold a water, 1xH and 5xJ, only difference is: one thing is said before - max 4J linked to one H and only three could used simultaneously. Well see tomorrow ...
     
  2. jeffdb27

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    I would bet this would be a temporary restriction. Don't they have a Duo Node specifically to hook up two Hoppers? Maybe they have a limited supply and want to get one per account first. Or maybe the software isn't written to support the Duo Node. Hmm. Dish wouldn't release software that wasn't done, would they?

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  3. jeffdb27

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    You could only watch three live programs at once, but couldn't additional Joeys watch DVR'd programs or possibly ON Demand stuff?
     
  4. James Long

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    There are errors in what the rep told you. But that isn't surprising on a new product that they have not actually been able to sell.

    Wait until tomorrow ... then call and see what the rep's system will actually allow him to enter as an order (and hope that the system is programmed correctly).
     
  5. James Long

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    Which sounds like DISH ... installing single nodes then paying to replace them with duo nodes later? It would be better to install duo notes up front.
    Never. :rolling:
     
  6. BobaBird

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    Dual Hopper integration is a future feature.

    I've put together a fairly comprehensive explanation of PrimeTime Anytime for the EKB.
     
  7. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Using PTA acronym is looks more logical then PTAT - is it came from the provider ?
     
  8. BobaBird

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    I've seen PTAT in Dish documents, and I like it better because the cadence of saying PTAT more closely matches PrimeTime Anytime. But I won't think less of those who prefer PTA, or anyone else from Harper Valley. :D
     
  9. n0qcu

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    Prime
    Time
    Anytime

    Three words, three letter acronym.

    Just my opinion and why
     
  10. Stewart Vernon

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    Not sure why this naming aspect has so much legs... but to be fair, "primetime" is often used as a singular compound word (whether correct or not)... so PA might be just as arguable.

    Personally, I hate acronyms for the very reason that so much dialog in this thread has been spawned arguing over which acronym is more correct instead of whether or not the actual feature will work as advertised.
     
  11. GOMD

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    Anyone have any luck ordering just 2 hoppers by themselves? I was basically forced to get 2 hoppers with 2 joeys to make it work. They wanted me to get 1 hopper to replace a vip722 and a 622. I am trying to get more tuners, not less.
     
  12. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Nobody have it - isn't that easy ? ;)
     
  13. James Long

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    Even as advertised it seems to be very limited.

    I'd like to see the receiver programmed to be smart enough to realize that if someone set a timer for Jay Leno requiring a tuner to tune to the transponder carrying that market's HD locals - and then set a timer for David Letterman which is also on the same transponder - that the receiver would be smart enough to use the same tuner for both recordings and allow the other two tuners to be used for non-big four programming.

    It will apparently do that during "prime time" ... using the PTA tuner for any timers set for prime time shows ... but I want the receiver to be that smart 24/7.

    I also want it to handle awards shows and sports correctly. If any program is scheduled to run past the end of prime time, PTA should catch the entire program, Cutting off at 11pm (10pm CT) would make the feature useless. (The main feature of PTA being the "I forgot to set a timer" capture of prime time programming.)
     
  14. Blowgun

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    While I agree that there is a certain cadence to PTAT, however PTAT isn't accurate. I think what matters more is what current and future subscribers are going to see when they go to DISH's own website. Currently that reads:

    "The Hopper's exclusive feature, PrimeTime Anytime™, gives you instant On Demand access to your favorite shows...."​

    So, DISH calls the feature "PrimeTime Anytime" and not "PrimeTime AnyTime". Probably because DISH is aware that "PrimeTime" isn't a real word and should be spelled using either a space or a hyphen at the very least. And, that Anytime is not spelled with two words mashed together. Hence, their own capitalization on their website makes the acronym PTA. That makes PTAT more or less wishful thinking, than accurate. ;)

    On a different matter; I agree that the PTA feature should be smart 24/7 and take full advantage of multiplexing whenever possible. I too would also hope that the Hopper would be smart enough to extend prime time should earlier prime time programming exceed the cut off point of 11pm. Having said that and I would be glad to be wrong, I bet PTA doesn't extend. If there is a game on earlier and the schedule gets shifted a ½ hour, there goes the identification of the killer on CSI. Of course, that depends on how accurate the EPG is, and as mention elsewhere, on the whole, day by day the EPG is getting worse, not better.
     
  15. Stewart Vernon

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    I not only would like the ability to use primetime anytime 24/7... but the ability to select other transponders as well.

    We know that it works by recording the whole transponder.. and that your LiLs will be on the same transponder in order for this to work.

    It would be nice if you could switch to a different transponder and record a different group of 4 channels if you wanted. Maybe 4 of the HBOs would be on the same transponder, for example, and you could have those in perpetual record-mode.

    Or maybe USA, Syfy, UniversalHD, and some other channel could be in the perpetual download cycle.

    I'm also curious what happens when sports overruns things... I haven't heard where primetime anytime will "go long" on a night with sports overrun.
     
  16. RAD

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    How will would that work when that's on each transponder can, and does, change all the time, just look at the uplink reports?
     
  17. jeffdb27

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    What about when prime time programming itself includes sports, like right now with the NCAA basketball tournament on CBS or in the winter when NBC has Sunday Night Football. The football definitely goes past "prime time".

    And what about Sunday when prime time could be said to start at 7p/ET 6p/CT? At least network programming starts then.

    Jeff
     
  18. James Long

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    The Hopper's prime is adjusted for the 7p/ET 6p/CT start on Sunday. That gives hope that extra hours could be recorded when sporting and other events begin early or end late.
     
  19. P Smith

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    Soon real reports will come - why not wait a couple days and ask owners such questions ? :confused:
     
  20. jeffdb27

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    Logic <> Fun in speculating
    We're just trying to come up with things for the early owners to try out! :p
     

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