It has been there ... They just needed to reorganize a little. At 61.5° DISH reclaimed the two transponders SkyAngel was occupying and pushed a lot of internationals off onto 118° ... making local HD markets spotbeamed also helps. But DISH had the space. (So much for "no new HD until the next satellite launches". ) BTW: Not another counting thread! My counts are below ... 44 DISH to 55 DirecTV plus RSNs/Alts and PPVs. The "17" listed above would push that to 61 DISH. Personally I don't count RSNs because they are often blacked out outside of their regional service area. We've had that fight in other threads ... which is why even though I provide a "count" I also provide a list. Count what you want! Question: Did I miss DirecTV adding ABC Family, Hallmark Movie Channel, The Travel Channel and Cinemax 5 Star? Or is DISH adding these first?