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problem with mpeg4 locals only

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by jbwitt, Sep 3, 2007.

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  1. Sep 3, 2007 #1 of 19
    jbwitt

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    I'm having signal problems with mpeg4 locals only (audio and video dropouts). Which satellite is used for those channels? I'm in FL if that makes a difference.
     
  2. Sep 3, 2007 #2 of 19
    baritony

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    I have had problems with my Locals as well but it seems to only be during PrimeTime and only during network content, meaning the commercials are fine.

    How you been able to isolate the conditions of when it happens?

    Ive been told by people here that the MPEG4 signal is having its bugs worked out.

    I have an OTA to get around this for now but when the regular season starts for the networks, I hope D* will have there new bird up and running and hopefully that should eliminate these problems.
     
  3. Sep 3, 2007 #3 of 19
    veryoldschool

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    The first thing I'd look at are the transponder levels from 99 & 103. If the levels are low, it can be a cause of your problems. Some installers don't align the dish as well as they should.
    If the levels are good, yes it may be on the local D* office end as they are [can] have problems there.
    The "new channels" shouldn't be coming through local offices so [if the dish is aligned correctly] I doubt they will have this problem, unless there is something wrong with your system.
     
  4. Sep 3, 2007 #4 of 19
    jbwitt

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    That seems to be the case here too. Only primetime content. The TN/CAL game Saturday night was terrible. I had a dropout every 10-15 seconds.
     
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    jbwitt

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    103 signals are good (95%+), but 99 has always been low for me (70%+). And all others are 98%+. How do I find out which channels are coming from which satellite?
     
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    veryoldschool

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    The "short" answer is "that transponder on 103" is your local HD.
    This could be your local D* office that is causing your problems.
    Can you post all the parts in your system [to see if something might be wrong]?
    Otherwise, I'd guess you're going to be fine for the new HD channels.
     
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    GlennDio

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    Castle...
    I am in Tampa and I get real good numbers from everything but 99 (70%+ like JBWit).... I have some (very rare) trouble with the locals but FSN Florida on channel 96 (HD Spot) is frustrating....should I have higher numbers? is 99 misaligned? what will 99 be used for when the new channels come on?
     
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    WRTBill

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    D* tech told me that local signal is a spot beam which means the dish must be aligned very close. If not, you will have low signal and pixelation.
     
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    veryoldschool

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    "The real story" is: 99 & 103 are Ka band and have a narrower beam so the dish needs to be aligned more precisely than the other Ku SATs with a broader beam. It doesn't matter if spot beam or not, it's the frequency that is the issue.
     
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    Tampa is off the 103 SAT so 99 doesn't matter for you.
     
  11. GlennDio

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    Castle...
    so what am I getting off of Sat 99 then?
     
  12. davring

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    Nothing, except signals from other spot beams, S Fla is beamed from 99. I can "see" spot beams from the 103, but natuarally the signals are low.
     
  13. Stuart Sweet

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    Does it happen a particular time of day? I know the weather changes a lot over there.
     
  14. bwaldron

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    You're just seeing neighboring spot beams (I think Miami & WPB are on 99).
     
  15. bwaldron

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    FSN/Sun on 96 often have problems with the games, but it is the MPEG4 encoding process at fault, not the signal level.
     
  16. Orient Express

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    interesting, be sure to post the outcome.
     
  17. jbwitt

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    It's pretty simple... 5 lnb dish, HR20 with x18a, Pioneer VSX-D811S receiver, 50" toshiba rear projection. using fiber audio and component video. no swm. no OTA and no analog on the cables. I've had the local satellite guy out twice to realign the dish and he claims it's as close to perfect as it's going to get. 103 signals are very good.

    I get the "searching for signal on sat X" message quite a bit for mpeg4 locals during primetime. But ONLY on the locals.
     
  18. davring

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    Please post signal levels from sat 99 and 103. WPB, Ft Laud and Miami are on 99, Tampa/orlando are on 103. I am not certain for the rest of the state. You should have a single transponder at 95 or above, below that you can have dropouts with MPG4. (HD locals)
     
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    I'M having dropouts in southern california on the CW (KTLA5) out of los angeles and also NBC 4 and even HBO and starz.
     
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