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Program Overlays Gone Too Far

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by unixguru, Dec 13, 2012.

What kinds of program overlays are OK?

  1. None

    0 vote(s)
  2. Channel logo all the time

    75 vote(s)
  3. Ad all the time

    21 vote(s)
  4. Brief channel logo

    2 vote(s)
  5. Brief ad

    92 vote(s)
  6. Factiods

    5 vote(s)
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. unixguru

    unixguru Godfather

    Jul 9, 2007
    Are you tired of seeing station logos and advertisements overlaying your programs? You probably haven't seen this type of thing yet. It's getting worse. We can look forward to factiods that are even bigger and more obtrusive!

    Take a look at these photos from the Natgeo program 2012: Countdown to Armageddon - The End Is Near. These factiods popup nearly every 15-20 seconds.

    I've emailed Natgeo. If you think this has gone too far please add your voice. Email them at comments@natgeochannel.com and take the poll.

    I did not finish watching the program.

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  2. jimmie57

    jimmie57 Hall Of Fame

    Jun 26, 2010
    Texas City, TX
    I emailed them.
    I will not watch a program that has them. Too many other channels to watch that don't have them.
  3. Hoosier205

    Hoosier205 Active Member

    Sep 3, 2007
    This is not a DirecTV issue.
  4. tonyd79

    tonyd79 Hall Of Fame

    Jul 24, 2006
    Columbia, MD
    Wait. You are complaining about pop ups that actually add data and information to an educational show? Did I get that right?
  5. slickshoes

    slickshoes Legend

    Sep 20, 2009
    Yeah that's basically complaining about Pawn Stars doing the same thing. I see no issue here...
  6. BubblePuppy

    BubblePuppy Good night dear Smoke... love you & "got your butt

    Nov 3, 2006
    I've seen those factoids actually block what ever item was the subject matter. I've also seen network pop-ups block a "key" item in a crime show leaving me wondering what it is the characters were looking at.
    These additional screen intrusions need to stop.
  7. damondlt

    damondlt New Member

    Feb 27, 2006
    Yes , he might be forced to learn something about the show by reading .

    Complain about something else, I've never witnessed this except on pawn stars and I welcome it.

    They aren't in movies and its not all over the place like its implied here.
  8. fleckrj

    fleckrj Icon

    Sep 4, 2009
    Cary, NC
    I like the approach that Discovery has taken with "Moonshiners". There are no factoid overlays in the original showing, but there are in the reruns some of the time. The ones with the factoids are marked as "Outlaw Edition" or something like that.
  9. unixguru

    unixguru Godfather

    Jul 9, 2007
    Not directly. Never said it was.

    The more of this people see the more likely they will cancel DTV (or cable or ...).

    The trend is moving away from broadcast providers. This just speeds it up.
  10. unixguru

    unixguru Godfather

    Jul 9, 2007
    :lol: Yeh, I watch that kind of show for education :grin: If natgeo was all about education they wouldn't have any show like that one.
  11. unixguru

    unixguru Godfather

    Jul 9, 2007
    Pawn stars... learned something :confused:

    For the few (I'm predicting) that like this kind of thing... the program providers and delivery companies should get together and implement the tools to make this OPTIONAL. Just like closed-captioning.

    And while they are at it... make the ads OPTIONAL too. Fat chance.

    Their days are numbered and it can't come soon enough. It won't be long until consumers will be able to get anything over the internet and will have the choice of free with ads and ad-free for a tiny payment.
  12. tonyd79

    tonyd79 Hall Of Fame

    Jul 24, 2006
    Columbia, MD
    Nice. Take a strict interpretation of education. You are complaining that a show giving you information is giving you information and will get all the folks who think you are talking about an ad for another show rather than actually adding something to the show you are watching like a footnote.

    Pick your battle.
  13. tonyd79

    tonyd79 Hall Of Fame

    Jul 24, 2006
    Columbia, MD
    Your last paragraph proves you are living in a fantasy world. The Internet without ads. Hahahahaha.

    And you aren't showing an ad here.
  14. lwilli201

    lwilli201 Hall Of Fame

    Dec 22, 2006
    If they really want to integrate additional facts about a subject they should designate an area dedicated to showing that information such as a crawl at the bottom, like on sports and news channels. There they would not distract the viewer from the picture and narration. The mind is a wonderful thing, but there is a point that there is just to much information to properly process.
  15. HGuardian

    HGuardian Godfather

    Aug 9, 2010
    Hate it. I often change the channel if I'm just surfing because of it. I am OK with the a semi-transparent channel logo that comes and goes on channels with commercials, I want nothing on premium channels.
  16. unixguru

    unixguru Godfather

    Jul 9, 2007
    If you read it carefully you would notice that I said free with ads, not free without ads.

    I have no problem with ads for stuff that is free - internet or otherwise.

    Remember when TV was completely free? You paid once for your own infrastructure - antenna, cables, TV. 15 minutes of ads every hour paid for the programming.

    Then we get more channels/choices but have to have infrastructure provided to us by someone else. Of course we have to pay for that. But we pay for more than just the infrastructure - money passes through the sat or cable company to the programming provider.

    Now that isn't enough. They can't go to 20 minutes of ads, or more, because people simply wouldn't watch at all. So they put an ad on the screen all the time to make even more money.

    Ever notice how most of the ads are for the channels own programs? Not making any money on that. Why is it that they aren't selling ad space to companies willing to pay?

    People are over-saturated with ads. For the most part they ignore them. Be it a mute button or FF.

    They need to face the facts. Ads aren't working any more. They've gone over the line from irritating to excessive.
  17. dpeters11

    dpeters11 Hall Of Fame

    May 30, 2007
    I'm fine with ones like these. What annoy me is when I was watching something and Tim Allen kept popping up on the bottom of my screen, with movement, advertising for his show. I've also seen it on History etc. If it's extra info about something discussed on screen, I'm OK with it.
  18. unixguru

    unixguru Godfather

    Jul 9, 2007
    I'm generally talking about intrusion into the program. Logos, ads, factoids. With each one it becomes increasingly irritating.

    This was a nip-it-in-the-bud post.
  19. unixguru

    unixguru Godfather

    Jul 9, 2007
    That was certainly my reaction. VERY distracting. Much of it was very very thinly connected to the program material. Every 15-20 seconds would cause a headache even if I was interested in what it had to say.

    How about "A decapitated ****roach can live several weeks without its head." Lots to do with ancient Myans and a game where the losers get decapitated.
  20. HarleyD

    HarleyD Hall Of Fame

    Aug 31, 2006
    While my preference is "none" it really depends a lot on the nature.

    Stuff that was thoughtfully integrated by the production staff of the program is usually done in a less invasive manner that does not obstruct the viewer from seeing some critical part of the program.

    Other stuff that is tacked on by the broadcast channel or the content provider are usually done indiscriminately and frequently block things that need to be seen to get the full value of the program.

    Channel bugs just tick me off, as well as upcoming programming promos slapped in the bottom corner of the screen.

    But the thing I really hate is when they decide to plaster tweets from the viewers on top of the programming. I hate that so much but I am seeing more of it all the time.

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