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Protection Plan / Upgrade to Genie Question

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by vachief, Jul 17, 2013.

  1. The Merg

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    I can understand dumping a 21 series DVR, but why didn't you get it replaced with another DVR? I really don't understand why people replace DVRs with a box that adds nothing to your system. I'd also replace that 23.

    Rich


    There those that don't need the extra recording space and would like full control of their Series List from more than one room. If the room where the client is placed is not heavily used, it can be a good option.


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  2. dpeters11

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    Agreed, the client does have a good purpose. It's not for everyone, but that is the benefit of DirecTV compared to Dish's Hopper.
     
  3. inkahauts

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    He has more in his system now than he had before in multiple ways. He lost nothing. He is using less power and has less noise if the minis in a bedroom.
     
  4. ticmxman

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    Yes the mini is quiet. But so is my H24 in the bedroom and it is fast with no lag. I can watch recordings from it and asign a recording to any of my DVRs. It does have some limitations compared to a mini regarding management of recordings. I'm sure for some the people and as Merg said viewing locations the mini is a reasonable choice. But as I said for my needs it is not a good option. At least not to replace a DVR. I suppose if my H24 died I could consider a mini genie for that rarely used location if the mini is as fast as the H24 and has no lag issues. It is great that Directv has several options available for various customer needs.

    Dukester's dropping a DVR from the kitchen and adding a mini is understandable due to space concerns. And if he is happy with his system that is all that matters.

    Is the power savings significant between D* equipment options?
     
  5. Rich

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    It would be a step back. Bad enough to have one Genie with a massive HDD go south, but to have a bunch of clients that are tied directly to it go south with it would be terrible.

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  6. Rich

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    Just looking at it from my point of view. I realize I'm a bit of an anomaly.

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  7. Rich

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    Just my opinion, but any DVR can be used as a server no matter where it is or how little it's used. That value completely disappears when using a non-DVR option. I have several HRs that are never used in any capacity other than as a server.

    Are the power savings significant between options? Not in my case.

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  8. Dukester619

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    I agree with your points on server capability and more redundancy through out. Like I said earlier I considered it and in the end the best overall option for me was the client for the garage. Especially now after seeing the much improved RF performance. That has been the biggest overall gain for me. I was always having to move around and point the remote at the receiver in the garage from the patio to get it to work, Now I have tried it from way on the other side of the yard and it worked flawlessly. Very happy with the decision.

    Another thing is, I did not have an option to upgrade one of the HR's to a 24. I am fairly sure it would have either cost me more if not being denied outright. I was ready to move on from the HR21 units.
     
  9. The Merg

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    There are plenty of people who don't have redundancy with regard to their data. Just about everyone I deal with does not even have a backup of their data for their computer. Plus, most people are not absolutely obsessed with TV (like we are). If the hard drive in the Genie fails and it is replaced, they lost some TV recordings. Most people are upset for a few minutes and then get on with things. Even in my setup, I don't record the same thing on multiple DVRs. If my drive fails, I'll be SOL, but in the scheme of things I really couldn't care. I'll re-record the shows I lost or I'll watch them on-line. If I record something and want to keep it truly long-term, I will off-load it onto a DVD.

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  10. inkahauts

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    You are also forgetting the whole Pause live tv thing. And ill admit some genie setups are faster than others. If its on an hr44 its faster than if its on a hr34. No question. But not much and still faster than a hr21. :)

    As for power. Hr is above 30w always 24/7/365. A client is about 1 or 2 when turned off. And it's less than any 30 when on. So yeah big difference.
     
  11. inkahauts

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    Most subs for direct and other services don't even have more than one DVr of any kind.
     
  12. The Merg

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    Most subs for direct and other services don't even have more than one DVr of any kind.


    Very true. Makes my point even more.


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  13. trh

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    Exactly.

    I just replaced an HR20-100 with an HR44. I was also offered two free minis to replace one HR22 and one HR23. I said 'no' to that, but took one mini to replace our H25. Even after two years, my wife sometimes forgets to record what she is watching from the H25 so she could later pause/rewind. And my mother-in-law, who visits several times per year, couldn't be taught how to get the H25 to pause or rewind live TV.

    Well worth it to make those two happy.
     
  14. ticmxman

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    You are also forgetting the whole Pause live tv thing. And ill admit some genie setups are faster than others. If its on an hr44 its faster than if its on a hr34. No question. But not much and still faster than a hr21. :)

    As for power. Hr is above 30w always 24/7/365. A client is about 1 or 2 when turned off. And it's less than any 30 when on. So yeah big difference.


    OK, that is a good point. I guess one could record from a receiver if they wanted a buffer but that is not nearly the same as a live buffer. Gives the edge to the mini genie over a HD receiver.

    Thanks for the power information.
     
  15. pfp

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    I have probably said similar things myself but am now considering a genie client. Why: 1) no churning hard drive in my bedroom. 2) I suspect the genie client won't be as much of a space heater as the DVR. 3) I can get rid of the oddly placed DVR in favor of a much easier to place box. I have not made the decision just yet but if I do there would be the reasons.
     
  16. Laxguy

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    Those two reasons alone were compelling enough for me!
     
  17. SmokemanGRP

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    I'm considering an upgrade to a Genie and I thought I'd use one of my HR-22's as a client so I could record a few critical shows for backup in case the Genie dies. What does "You are also forgetting the whole Pause live tv thing" mean? Would I lose the ability to pause live TV on the hr-22?
     
  18. ticmxman

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    I'm considering an upgrade to a Genie and I thought I'd use one of my HR-22's as a client so I could record a few critical shows for backup in case the Genie dies. What does "You are also forgetting the whole Pause live tv thing" mean? Would I lose the ability to pause live TV on the hr-22?


    I'm starting to feel like I'm at a car dealer getting a sales pitch. Damn and it is working. Might just call and see I can still get the mini genie that was offered on my upgrade a couple of weeks ago. I would be willing to give up the H24 receiver but not my HR24 or HR22.
     
  19. peds48

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    He was referring tot eh fact that an HD receiver cannot pause live TV. a Genie client can
     
  20. SmokemanGRP

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    By HD receiver do you mean a non-DVR version (H-xx) or that an HR-xx loses the ability to pause live TV when it is used as a client to Genie? Ticmxman mentions the option of using the receiver to record if they wanted a buffer so I assume he's discussing a DVR.
     

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