Ok well I live in an apartment and Im not allowed to mount a satellite dish into their structure- no wooden beams or mounting into the patio fence and you cant do tripods because the building has weird angles where th dish needs to extend about a foot off the patio. Even though 7 or 8 other people in the complex have had satellites mounted technically wrong forever and the complex does nothing but the DTV installers who came both times to install wouldn't do it because they had to go to the lobby and get the manager's permission first, I try telling them once its up no one cares but couldnt convince them. I understand its their job it just sucks when everyone else can break the rules and no one cares but you can't and you wouldnt even get in trouble if you did. Alright to the point I want to build a pole by anchoring a galvanized 1 1/4" base into the concrete in my patio screwing a male pvc adapter into it and running pvc about 7' high where it has to 90* off the patio about a foot then 90* again up with just enough pvc coming up to drop the dish onto. Im saying 1 1/4" pvc with 1.6" OD because I dont think pvc that tall is strong enough to handle the ka/ku dish in bad weather. Im going to zip tie the pole around a wooden post at about 5' high and after they leave im going to get those pipe holders that anchor into walls and hold the pipe in place and put those from th floor up to about 5 ft. I got this idea cuz someone else in the complex has done this. I figure if DTV has nothinf to do with putting up this pipe then the yll just put the dish on top. Also was thinking about buying an under eaves roof joist bracket for the dish just im not sure if DTV guys would mount the dish on it if I already had it installed when they got here. WHat do you guys think I hate Cox cable or else I would just suck it up.