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Question about when MRV comes out of beta

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by GRich, May 5, 2010.

  1. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    I've found when it comes to techs that if you tell them what you want and do not want and why they work with you. I've also seen several posts on here over the years saying the same.

    Just explain to them what you want and why.
     
  2. David Ortiz

    David Ortiz Save the Clock Tower!!

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    I had most of these worries, but my installer was great. Aside from attaching DECAs and replacing the splitters inside, all of the work was done outside at the dish and below where now two wires instead of one go under the house. He wanted to put Band Stop Filters on the SWiM-16 outputs, but I assured him that they weren't needed.

    I think the installers do expect to use an 8-way splitter or two and have home runs to each receiver, because he asked a couple of times what the three coax lines going under the house were for. I told him that one went to each room. I guess with the six boxes I had, he was expecting more runs. I suggested putting the LR and MBR lines together (5 tuners) with a 2 way splitter off on SWiM output 2, and the other BR (5 tuners) on the power passing port of the second 2 way splitter (second port terminated) coming off of SWiM output 1.

    The downloading of the NR is a delicate situation. If you aren't getting any new or replacement boxes, it really shouldn't be necessary to download the NR. Of course I would hate to lose all of my recordings because an installer did a reset everything. Perhaps you should hide all of your remotes.

    By the way, my PI is on the other side of one 2-way splitter, and my broadband DECA is coming off the output of the PI after it feeds a 4-way splitter. Additionally, both of the PIs are plugged into the same UPS.
     
  3. dwcolvin

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    Already have installed the hardware (replaced SWS-4 with 3 SWS-2s, so SWiM-16 is plug and play, SWS-2 at router for DECA) :)

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    All they really need to do is install the SWiM-16, replace the LNB and run another pair of wires from the dish to the SWiM-16, give me the 29V PI, and give me the DECAs and I'd be a happy camper. :D
     
  4. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    I don't see the green stickers on those splitters, so for DECA they'd need to be changed.
     
  5. dwcolvin

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    Why would DECA need special splitters? The splitters pass 2-2150 MHz, which includes the 500-600 MHz DECA band, and the SWiM-16 doesn't need the notch filter. :confused:
     
  6. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    I'm using splitters not even approved for both SWiM & DECA, without issues, "but" an installer isn't going to use anything that isn't on his approved list.
    "Green Stickers" are required for all SWiM/DECA installs.
    Your answer may be simply these stickered components have known performance for DECA.
     
  7. David Ortiz

    David Ortiz Save the Clock Tower!!

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    What VOS said, but your SPLIT2-Z splitters have the SWiM logo on them, and the installer may go with them. You could always offer to try it first, then switch them if you see a problem. I think the only difference between your 2-way splitters and the MSPLIT2R0-03 is the green label.
     
  8. jgarveyATL

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    I am waiting on the new HR24 receivers due out with MRV on 5/13. I don't have DTV service today so this will be a brand new install. What is the laundry list of what I need to ask the tech about when he comes to do the install?

    I have 4 cat5e and 4 coax run to the 2 major TV locations, 2 cat5 and 2 coax run to all others. All cables terminate in a central closet in the basement and there is already an existing run for dishnetwork to the attic (plus several extra coax I left in place for future expansion).

    Thanks for the advice
    james-
     
  9. dwcolvin

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    That's exactly the kind of thinking that concerns me.
     
  10. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    If you installed something and then later the QC [nit wit] came along and dinged your pay for not having used to right parts, you might understand.
     
  11. dwcolvin

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    Oh, I understand. But, as Stuart Sweet suggests, the minute the Tech leaves I could change things. And, if the installation is not publicly visible (i.e., outside), I don't know of anything in my DirecTV contract allowing an 'inspection' inside. And a QC isn't going to get any closer to my network or entertainment centers than the Tech would.

    Of course, I don't really care if they replace the splitters with identical ones. :)

    Or, I could buy a box of green stickers at Office Depot... :lol:
     
  12. veryoldschool

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    I don't follow "their rules", with my own work [it must meet my rules], but I also don't want the installer to get dinged, since he's just trying to do his job.
     
  13. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    The tech won't use your Ethernet runs. They'll set you up with SWM/DECA.
     
  14. David Ortiz

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    If you request MRV when you order, you'll get a SWiM install automatically. If the Hx24s are available in your area, you should get them. Minimum order for MRV is one HD receiver and one HD DVR, but you can upgrade when you order. If you get all Hx24s, you will only need one DECA for the broadband connection. Hopefully you are using the refer a friend option to get your friend and you $100 off.
     
  15. codespy

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    Not the case at all.
     
  16. dwcolvin

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    I absolutely agree, and I suspect most Techs are overworked, underpaid and undertrained.

    I'm beginning to think I should just force the issue on the 9 tuners and have them install a SWM-E2 or SWiM-16, and run CAT5 to the one location that doesn't have Ethernet, rather than the hassle of DECA 'requirements'. :rolleyes:
     
  17. lugnutathome

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    Since it's the month the service should cut over off of beta and I am currently in a test market, I called to order MRV service ONLY. No install needed.

    Wendy (a very pleasant woman with a delightful Alabama accent) had to get info from supervisors (she left the call several times). When she returned I was told that there is no provision to "activate" the service per se and it should just keep working since I'm already functioning.

    So. It could be that us freeloaders using our own networks can use it as long as we keep our mouths shut and only those requiring an install are tracked and charged.

    OR

    Poor Wendy and her various supervisory types are making stuff up .

    I'm thinking its the latter as the free beta opt in menu items should soon vanish and they can only be unlocked by a hit from DTV's computer or the proper keyword search.

    Anyway I thanked Wendy and told her I said she could take the rest of the day off :grin:

    I'm thinking the next firmware roll out will be the eye opener.

    Anyway I'll call back late next week and repeat the request and see what the results are then.

    Don "be nice if we could just freeload since we aren't supported but" Bolton
     
  18. matt

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    That would be interesting...
     
  19. jgarveyATL

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    Thanks for the explanation David. I'm ordering 2 HD DVRs and either 1 or 2 HD receivers. So will I need all 4 coax connections for the machine (2 for Sat feed, 1 for OTA antenna, 1 for DECA)? Am I screwed on boxes with only 2 coax per location?

    Thanks also for reminder. I am using the $100/off option.
     
  20. matt

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    SWM combines the 2 satellite feeds and the DECA together. You will have one coax line and that will go to the DECA then the receiver, or just to the receiver for Hx24 recievers, and the other coax can be used for OTA. That's what makes SWM so great!
     

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