Question for those who switched to streaming...

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Citivas, Oct 14, 2018.

  1. Rich

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    You just described "paradigm shift" very well. And you're right about sports. That is the reason I still have D*.

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  2. James Long

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    I just want to be able to find what I want to watch. I don't want to build a system of multiple services - I just want to turn on my TV and watch my programs.

    30 years ago I lived in an apartment with bundled cable and no LOS for satellite. I lived with what they could provide on my TVs. When I moved to a house (with LOS!) I subscribed to satellite service. Initially neither satellite service had locals for my area - and while I could have changed inputs to watch local TV I found that it was much easier to watch whatever was on that satellite box. When locals became available via satellite I added them. Over the years the satellite box has become the hub of watching TV ... including streamed/downloaded PPV and other features. At this point the feature I would add to my satellite box would be a BluRay player so I can watch discs.

    The convenience of having one place to turn is important.
     
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  3. NashGuy

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    I agree. That's why everyone is trying to devise UIs and commercial offerings that combine content from all the various sources, both linear channel and OTT on-demand, into a convenient package for consumers. Any decent modern cable box, like Comcast's X1, now has at least Netflix integrated, if not additional popular apps too, alongside live channels, DVR and on-demand. (Comcast recently said that they plan to offer the top 100 apps on X1.) Meanwhile, Amazon, Roku and Apple are all looking at simple ways to sell multiple subscriptions to customers and converge content from all those sources into a unified UI that makes sense. Apple is even positioning the Apple TV as a sort of 21-century successor to the TiVo in that they're working with major cable TV providers, including Charter Spectrum, to integrate their services with Apple's software/UI.
     
  4. James Long

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    I was surprised how well my new Smart TV integrated with DISH ... basically giving me a second UI for my receiver. Recent DVR recordings and channels show up on my TV's UI - and when I select something the TV controls the DISH receiver via IP.

    I believe integration will help keep the traditional players in the game.
     
  5. mjwagner

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    If what you mean by that is moving on to something better then I would definitely agree.
     
  6. slice1900

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    Does your TV has an app for Dish like Directv's client app some TVs support, or is Dish using standards that the TV natively supports like DLNA & DTCP-IP?
     
  7. James Long

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    Cognitive dissonance. It is better because you would NEVER choose to pay for something worse. Right? "Bottom line, you can get used to almost anything." is the catchphrase of the cognitively dissonant subscriber. Sure, you don't get grapes with your streaming plans - but the grapes were sour and you didn't want them anyways.
     
  8. James Long

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    It is not an app on the TV (such as the Netflix and YouTube apps that one can select). It is IP remote control of the receiver. The TV recognized that it was connected to a DISH receiver via HDMI during the setup process. It then showed a list of all of my DISH equipment and asked which one I wanted to connect. When I selected the right device a code number appeared on the DISH receiver ... I typed the code number into my TV (the menu showed the screen in a window so I could see the receiver screen while in the menu) and the TV integrated the remote control of the DISH receiver.

    I expect that the TV would also detect DIRECTV equipment. There was no notice on the box advertising the TV as DISH compatible. (The DIRECTV NOW app is one of the several featured apps. SlingTV is available via an app search but is not featured.)
     
  9. mjwagner

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    Oh I’m sure that would be an apt description for some. But I don’t think that would describe the majority. Certainly doesn’t describe me. Thankfully we are well off and can afford just about anything we want. I switched to get a better experience that more closely matched how and what we watch. The fact that it is also less expensive was just icing on the cake. But everyone is different and their really is no “right” answer.
     
  10. linkstorinks

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    As a only sport and news watching consumer, will say after almost 1 month worth of SlingTV I am very happy. Got all my local sports, plus for well over 1/3 the price without time spent haggling on credits, etc. Happy wife as well so...

    Only downfall as some are in this thread, "what is wrong with you and why do you need channel numbers" Habits all, plain and simple. I knew exactly what game was on what channel and no they weren't your run of the mill favorites you could set up easily either. I see it more as I know how to stop on my left and right foot in hockey as I have always done without hesitation. Now I need to be like one kids again that can only stop on one leg and will eventually figure everything out in unison. However one will always favor stopping one way or turning one way on skates just like any other chooses the hand to write or draw with. To each their own, still loving my sports and learning my new turns and stops off the ice with the kids on the ice!
     
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  11. Rich

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    My Samsungs will do that with some D* HRs. I think it's only the Genies. The Samsung remotes also control the Apple TV boxes. Never use the remotes for that, the dedicated remotes are much better, I think.

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    Gotta give folks time to assimilate all that you can do with streaming. You switched for exactly the same reason most of us did. This isn't just about saving money.

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  13. slice1900

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    I would stream more if I wasn't losing some of the features I like most about my Tivo - like watching stuff 30% faster via QuickPlay, or being able to read captions at 1xFF for stuff like news or documentaries.

    Before I had that, I used to stream stuff more often. Now it feels like I'm being forced back into the stone age when I do, so I stream maybe once a month now. If that. Bad enough that fast forward sucks donkey balls in the Amazon Prime app since you can't see the picture and don't know where you might want to stop!

    I suppose this is unique to that small percentage of us who use a Tivo, so it won't impact the migration to streaming, but that doesn't make it any less annoying that they can't make it a better experience.
     
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    What device are you running the Amazon Prime app on? On my Nvidia Shields and my FireTV devices when you hold down the ff or REW key a box pops up in the lower left that lets you see what you are ff/REW thru. Perhaps it’s another one of those cases where the UI is not consistent across devices, which is certainly something that needs work.
     
  15. slice1900

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    Running the prime app on my Tivo. It has been a while, but I saw it on an Apple TV and it did the same. Maybe it has been updated on those platforms - might have to consider getting an ATV if that's the case.
     
  16. NashGuy

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    I used to have a TiVo Roamio OTA. And, lemme tell ya, the streaming apps on TiVo are what suck donkey balls. (I hear they're somewhat better on the Bolt, though.)

    Anyhoo, I haven't subbed to Prime Video in awhile but I just double-checked on my ATV4K and, as I remembered, the Prime Video app uses the standard Apple playback UI/controls (same as Netflix, Hulu, Showtime and HBO, but NOT YouTube). I tested with the free episode 1 of Man in the High Tower. When you pause the video, the timeline UI appears with a thumbnail. You then swipe left or right on the touch pad to scrub through the timeline, with the thumbnail and timestamp updating as you go. You also have the option of just left or right clicking while the video plays to immediately jump backwards or forwards by 10 seconds. Doing that does not bring up the thumbnail preview.
     
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    You might be interested in a potential future package from Hulu that would reportedly just feature sports and news channels, along with their base on-demand library of content. So probably ESPN, ESPN 2, FS1, FS2, NBCSN, Fox News, MSNBC, CNBC, and probably CNN, HLN, TBS and TNT. Possibly also local affiliates of ABC, NBC, CBS and Fox (which of course carry a fair amount of sports plus local news). Wonder what that might cost? If they could offer all that, including locals, for $25, that could sell.

    Hulu Eyes Cheaper Live TV Bundles That Strip Out Entertainment Cable Networks
     
  18. Rich

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    The Amazon Prime app on the ATVs has always had that feature. I don't have any old ATVs but since the AP app came out that feature has been active on every one of the six ATVs we have. And on every other ATV of those generations, the HD ATV and the 4K ATVs.

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  19. cwpomeroy

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    Not sure if any of you have seen this but Amazon releasing an OTA DVR with no monthly fees..... I plan on getting this for some rooms I don’t have directv in and when we have rain or snow fade.

    Amazon Fire Recast
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01J6A6H7...qmt=e&hvbmt=bb&hvdev=t&ref=pd_sl_4dgswpp80k_e

    I’m spending almost $200 a month with directv and another bunch with Netflix, CBS All Access, WWE network etc. I’m sure I’ll get the Disney app when released. The one thing about the streaming that drives me insane is the passwords and stuff. We should have type of app or dongle or something in the house instead of having to login and authenticate on eact tv. Note, we have three apple TVs and a bunch of smart Samsung’s and xboxes. I too would like a single meta app controller.....
     
  20. slice1900

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    Sling sells the AirTV for half that price, and there are even cheaper alternatives (as low as $35, you supply the hard drive) though they probably aren't quite so polished.

    If you're going to pay $229 for that, Tivo occasionally has deals where you can get a Bolt OTA (4 tuners and more storage than that Amazon device) with lifetime for $300. Much better resale on a Tivo, too.
     

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