Question for those who switched to streaming...

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  1. Nov 3, 2018 #141 of 223
    Rich

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    You're not looking at streaming as I hope most folks look at it. I see very few commercials the way I stream. And isn't that one of major benefits of streaming?

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  2. Nov 3, 2018 #142 of 223
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    See highlighted text. The question I would ask (and have asked myself as I do my research) is how many of those channels you actually watch on a regular basis, or even on an occasional basis. I've found the answer is actually a fairly small number. I find myself wondering why it makes sense to worry about replicating the same channel lineup, or even anywhere close to it.

    Not to get too political here, but it's sort of like the Obamacare debate. I'm male. I don't care one bit if the government wants health insurance policies to include gynecological coverage. I don't use that and I never will, so I don't want to pay for it. I've concluded that TV channels are sort of the same.
     
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  3. Nov 3, 2018 #143 of 223
    tivofan2018

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    a true package to where one could pick there own channels would be great!!! but we know what would happen with that. the content providers would crank the rates up so high making it not even worth it unless one bundles all of the other channels in with them. content providers want more $$$ and consumers want lower rates
     
  4. Nov 3, 2018 #144 of 223
    b4pjoe

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    I'm not sure what you mean by how most folks look at streaming. I rarely watch live tv. I work evenings and record shows mainly from the 4 major networks which I did this week. I tried watching the first 30 minute sitcom from the youtube tv cloud dvr. It started with a 15 second ad before the opening scene. After a few minutes it went to a block of four 30 second commercials. Then it came back for few more minutes of show. Then it started another block of four 30 second commercials. That was at approximately the halfway mark of the show. You can't FF through them like you can with the D* dvr. Like I said this was my trial test with youtube tv. Yeah I have the commercial free subscription to CBS ALL access but that only gets CBS content. ABC, NBC, and FOX all have apps on my ATV and they all have commercials that you can't FF through. Netflix or Hulu isn't a great option to see the latest episodes of tv. Hulu live tv doesn't even have my 4 local network channels.
     
  5. Nov 3, 2018 #145 of 223
    b4pjoe

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    I should have worded that differently. I do not need every channel that I get on dtv. I have the premier plan and there are a lot of channels on it that i do not watch. I have that plan because I do get all of the channels that we do watch and also includes all of the premium channels that we want...HBO, Showtime, Cinemax etc....Now I don't have to have all of the premium channels but when I decided I wanted HBO and Showtime it was more economical to move to the premier plan where I got all of the premium channels instead of just adding the two premium channels. The youtube tv was missing some channels that I do regularly watch plus the issue with not being able to FF through commercials.
     
  6. Nov 4, 2018 #146 of 223
    mjwagner

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    I use PSVue. I ff thru all commercials. The net with all this is that it is very dependent on your usage patterns and what channels you need/want. Based on that some people are just better off sticking with traditional cable/sat. Nothing wrong with that at all. The benefit to all this is as more options become available to consumers it improves service and drives down cost for everybody. Competition is good!
     
  7. Nov 4, 2018 #147 of 223
    Rich

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    Most of the content that seems to be missing can be found on the streaming video services such as NF, AP and Hulu.

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  8. Nov 4, 2018 #148 of 223
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    You're watching stuff like Netflix, Amazon, etc. right? You've said before that once you can watch your football/baseball teams streaming you'll drop Directv. You're not going to be able to avoid the commercials when that happens, and if you 'record' the games to watch later you might not even be able to skip them then like can you with a DVR.

    It all depends on what restrictions the sports rights owners might put on the streaming service they choose. Since they would have the ability to prevent viewers from skipping commercials, I think there's a good chance they'll do so, because it means more money.
     
  9. Nov 4, 2018 #149 of 223
    Rich

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    I have no idea how most folks stream. As far as I know there is very little data about this subject. I asked that question in the hope that folks would tell us what they are doing.

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  10. Nov 4, 2018 #150 of 223
    b4pjoe

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    OK how do you hope most folks look at it? What are you watching via streaming where you see very few commercials? From Hulu, NF or AP? Movies? Old TV shows? Current TV shows? Sports? Someone mentioned they can FF through commercials with PS Vue. I'll have to check that out. What I posted about earlier was what I found with Youtube TV.
     
  11. Nov 4, 2018 #151 of 223
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    I have a couple of different views that are similar to others. We are retired now and so spend some days at home with "nothing" to do but watch TV. There are shows that we record and others we just go through the guide and decide to watch.
    So there are probably a lot of channels that we watch occasionally.
    So having 1 guide that we can scan through to see what is on "everywhere" is important.
    Also I don't really want to remember gee I watch that on this service. Personally, I find both Netflix and Prime which I've tried difficult to find things let alone go to the right one for this service. Skipping commercials is extremely important especially in the pre-election period. The most important invention of all time is the MUTE button
    Sure I pay for things that I don't watch but ease of use is important to me (let alone trying to explain to my spouse how to find things.
    As to the guy who doesn't want to pay for medical benefits he can't use we all pay for things (like schools) the don't use - that is life.
     
  12. Nov 4, 2018 #152 of 223
    dod1450

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    Check with your local library. They may have an application to watch movies, eBooks, and music? We have Hoopla that requires one to have a local library card for creating an account. Each library system is different. It is FREE.
     
  13. Nov 4, 2018 #153 of 223
    b4pjoe

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    Agreed CTJon. FF and ease of use for the spouse are both very important.
     
  14. Nov 4, 2018 #154 of 223
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    Have Hoopla through my local library. But it only allows four downloads of any kind (music, tv shows, movies, audio books, ebooks) per month. Couldn't replace much satellite or cable with that. Maybe other libraries aren't as restrictive.
     
  15. Nov 4, 2018 #155 of 223
    bmetelsky

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    I switched from DISH to streaming, even went in with my two brothers to share the cost of streaming. Guess what? I couldn't stand it - primarily because I hated not having a DVR that could skip commercials, go to the start of a program already in progress, etc. The wife also hated having to sit through commercials. The experiment lasted approximately 2 months. I caved and subscribed to DirecTv for an all-inclusive package which has more and is cheaper, even in year 2, than the streaming that was sub-par.
     
  16. Nov 5, 2018 #156 of 223
    Rich

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    How I watch TV is based on what I've done for years. I've written about this several times. In the early '90s I had 12 VCRs and cable. I had racks of blank tapes all numbered, hundreds of blank tapes. I recorded everything we wanted to watch and kept a paper logbook detailing what was on each tape. With all series recorded and available at any time we started binging on series after the seasons ended. We got in the habit of binging rather than watching various programs each night.

    In 2002, Cablevision dropped the YES Network. Check out my avatar. No Yankees, no YES, no Rich. Switched to D* immediately. Got a bunch of receivers. Had no idea what a DVR was. Had a bunch of receivers feeding 12 VCRs. Same viewing habit, mainly binged on everything. Still had the logbook, still lots of work. Bought a D* DVR just to see what I could do with that. Had an epiphany. Bought a bunch of D* TiVos, got rid of all the Sony VCRs (best PQ of any of the many VCRs I tried) and ditched the logbook and the blank tapes. Whoa! Binging got a whole lot easier! Now I have a Playlist.

    End up buying 12 HRs. Satisfied. Got the system I always wanted. Perfect...still have commercials to deal with but the D* remotes make that a bit easier. Still binging. We are always about six months behind because we wait for each series to end before we binge on the whole series. Seems like this is about as good as it gets.

    I subscribed to NetFlix as soon as I realized their DVD service was better and cheaper that any video stores. I knew they had a streaming service but I didn't see any reason to use it...until I tried it for a few months. Yes, using NF is kinda intimidating because of the NF user interface. It takes time to get used to it. Even after I figured that out it still didn't occur to me how to use NF. That took over a year to sink in. Then it hit me, no more scheduling. No more channels. No more Guide. No more DVR problems. No antenna or dish. No cabling. All I had to do was select a series and binge on it.

    I had to try the other streaming video services, Amazon Prime, Hulu, Showtime, HBO NOW, etc. Too many to list. All have a bit of a learning curve but they all used NF as a template for their UIs. Once I figured them out, I had "channels" again...sort of. If you think of NF as a "channel" and AP as a "channel" and Hulu as a "channel" streaming might be a little easier to understand. Each service has Playlists. I don't feel as if I've lost anything by streaming and not using D* for anything but sports. What I end up with is very few commercials, a better picture and very few hardware problems.

    And, I get to see everything I want to see when I want to see it very easily. I do not feel that I've complicated viewing TV, I did that by buying all the DVRs. I made life simpler by doing what I did. It took me years to convince my family that streaming is the way we want to watch TV, now they all buy into it.

    Have we saved any money? Nope, that's not what this is about for us. Our monthly bill for all our video services including D* is about the same as it was when we had the top tier D* packages. Not saying you can't save money by streaming, you absolutely can save a lot of money by just using one streaming video service at a time. That would cost up to ~ $20 a month if you just had one SVS actives. Can anyone beat that price...that price that gives you so much content it will take you months to binge on all of it?

    I don't see the need for a cable replacement service such as D*NOW or Slingbox or PS Vue. I wanted to get away from all that.

    This is all just my opinion, just the way I've found to watch TV. What matters is what each of us is comfortable with. YMMV. I don't think there's just one way to stream. Keep in mind, what we do is really simple.

    Rich
     
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    I did that too but with 5 or 6 VCRs. Bought two cases of VHS tapes for .99¢ a piece. Good times back then.
     
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    I did enjoy it but it's so much simpler now. Got a whole lot simpler when I got the DVRs. Now it's so simple it's damn near ridiculous. But it does take time to grok the fullness of streaming.

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  19. Nov 5, 2018 #159 of 223
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    As of a couple weeks ago, the only channels for which YouTube TV doesn't allow you to FF through ads are local CBS affiliates (and maybe CBS's cable networks, which are CBS Sports Network and Pop). There used to be a number of other channels like that but now it's just CBS.

    As for the channel line-up, yeah, to get the price to just $40 while including all the locals, the major sports nets, the news nets and a generous cloud DVR (unlimited storage for 9 months), YouTube TV can't include everything. So they don't have any channels owned by Scripps/Discovery or by Viacom (which, not coincidentally, don't own any local, sports or news channels). Seems to me like Google could just negotiate with those two network owners to offer their most popular channels via add-on packs.
     
  20. Nov 5, 2018 #160 of 223
    b4pjoe

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    Ahhhh....the show I tried on the dvr was Seal Team which is CBS. Thanks for that info.
     

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