Question on moca vs deca

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  1. larryk

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    I am currently subbed to DTV, and use their deca to supply Ethernet to a switch in my home theater cabinet, and the master bedroom for a 2nd WAP for stronger wireless signal on the far side of the house, and also the Roku, etc. Can I do the same thing if I switch to Dish? In the case of DTV all I have to do is use their (green) splitter, one side to the IRD,and the other side to a powerd deca and out of the deca to my network switch etc...
    This problem may be the only thing holding me up from switching.
     
  2. peds48

    peds48 Genius.

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    DECA is MoCA albeit on a different frequency. Do if dish has MoCA adapters as DIRECTV does it should work the same.


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  3. larryk

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    After a lot of digging/reading old posts, it looks like I need an HIC at my router to connect the H3 and the Joeys to the Internet, and another HIC (in reverse) at my entertainment center cabinet to supply ethernet to a switch to connect my fire tv, roku, dvd... Unless I can just connect a switch to the Ethernet port on the H3 and bridge it that way (I doubt it as that would be far to easy). Can anyone confirm that I am on the right track?
    I also assume that the HIC is compatible with the H3
     
  4. JosephB

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    Not sure if the frequencies are the same, chances are they're not, so don't count on using any of the DirecTV DECA equipment. The splitters *should* be fine, the point of the green label DirecTV splitters is that they pass higher and lower ranges for SWM and DECA, which should be fine for the HVN side of a Dish install (of course, you cannot split the dish feed coming to the Hopper..so keep that in mind)

    You *CAN* bridge the ethernet port on the back of the hopper, so if you have an HIC to get ethernet-to-coax going, you can then use the ethernet on the back of the Hopper without an HIC at that location to get network connectivity to your TV/game consoles/whatever. I am pretty sure you can also bridge with a Joey as well. Keep in mind that bridging on both the Hopper and the Joey are "unsupported" which means it will work, but Dish will not help you and it's not guaranteed to keep working forever (although it's extremely unlikely they'd ever disable it)

    From what you are describing you should be able to get away with only 1 HIC to get your ethernet network connected to your coax network and be fine from there.
     
  5. Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    There hasn't been a need for the HIC for a long time. Even the original Hopper can bridge Internet across MOCA to all connected devices... so you only need Internet connection to one Hopper and then all Hoppers/Joeys in the system can share that Internet connection.

    There are some scenarios where a HIC might be helpful... IF you don't have Ethernet in the room where your Hopper is, and don't have good WiFi... then the HIC can tap in elsewhere... but most Hopper setups shouldn't need a HIC to share Internet access.
     
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  6. JS_racer

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    can a hopper 3 connect to ethernet on one port, and use the other H3 port for input to a switch going to other devices ??
    my switch is 1 port short, suppose this would not be the ideal option if it would work ??

    will a joey provide network access to say a roku or another network devise ?
    Thanks !!
     
  7. Troch2002

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    Well IMO thats an enormous bottle neck.
    But I guess you can't do more than one thing at the tv anyway.

    And why even ask??? , Just try it.
    Let us know.

    Whats wrong with wireless on your Roku, or even H3?
     
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  8. larryk

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    I had my install yesterday, and things went very smoothly. I had 1 hopper 3 and 2 joey's installed. The installer provided one HIC to supply the network to the dish equipment, and I just plugged my ethernet switch into one of the rj45's on the rear of the hopper. You can not do the same on the joey's, but I had purchased 2 additional HIC's (thanks ebay) and put them inline thru passthru to the joeys and the HIC's supply the ethernet connection to all of my additional equipment.
    My voip, alarm system, security camera's, fire tv boxes, Echo... all came up with no problems.
    So far I am very impressed with the boxes compared to DTV's genie equipment at almost half the price (for now).
    Thanks for the help.
     
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  9. pjs344

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    You can go to Sonora Design and get there spects files of all of there splitters, diplexers and multiplexers that DTV and Dish use. Has various home setup diagrams using there devices, freqs used for swm/moca/deca/lnbs/ota/cable and more.
     
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