I live in upstate NY so our locals come from the 119 sat. I was not aware that the guide comes from that sat as well.. Either way when they were originaly setting it up he was like umm I have no idea how you were getting locals before because its completely clear that from the Sats line of sight your trees are blocking 119. But upon going inside theres a 97 signal strenghth across the board.. At first they were not getting any signal and couldent figure out whats going on but aparently one of the ports on the LNB were bad right off the box. Either way for now were getting 119 just fine.. Hopefully we wont have to go over that hurtle for quite soem time because the trees that are blocking the LOS are on a neighbors property 3 houses down.